Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Shakti Sadhna Group, Please may I request you to provide me MRITSANJIVNI MAHAMRITUNJAY MANTRA with its meaning and JAAP VIDHI. Sandip Jha ------ There are 11 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Matrka from Chandra Hari "Saroja" 2. New file uploaded to 3. The first sutra: Now the discipline of Yoga Friends of Osho 4. Changes in the Homepage : Ritu Kala Ceremony "Nora" 5. In conversation : The Saptamarkas. "Nora" 6. Re: In conversation : The Saptamarkas. Chandra Hari 7. Re: The first sutra: Now the discipline of Yoga "omprem" 8. Re: Re: The first sutra: Now the discipline of Yoga Chandra Hari 9. Rahu kala Durga puja revisited "gitavs" 10. Re: Ragu Kalam Durga Pooja. "prainbow61" 11. Re: Ragu Kalam Durga Pooja. "Nora" ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sun, 04 May 2003 23:25:00 -0000 "Saroja" Re: Matrka from Chandra Hari Aadarniya Chandra Hariji. Koti Koti Dandavats. Anek Dhanyavad. "Sati committing Sati is an allegorical description of Moon joining Sun on `amavasya' – which is the zero of time – a Tantrik epoch at which the 51 aksharas came into being. " "Sati or Moon – the 51 parts of Moon got equated with the alphabets: This conception is related to the Shadchakras (petals of the 5 wheels and the Sahasrara) and their role in facilitating the ascend of Kundalini. We know that at Muladharam, the SUN, Moon and Agni (Ida&Pingala&Sushumna or Ganga-Yamuna-Sarasvati) are in conjunction – a state of Sati or Amavasya from whence the amrtakirana > (Soma == SA+Uma) gains in strength." Athi Sundaram. A shloka in sanskrit explains this phenomena of Sree Matrka devi thus... The Vidya which is composed of the three Bindus, the Vowels and consonants collectively and separately, is both immanent in and transcends the Thirty-six tattvas and is by Herself alone. The Vowels (Svara) are the letters beginning with A and the consonants (Vyanjana) are the letters beginning with Ka. There three Bindus which make Anusvara and Visarga. These taken either singly or in a group make Her body. Her body is made up of thirty six Tattvas beginning with Shiva and ending with Ksiti and she also transcends them for she is the origin of all the Tattvas. She is therefore alone (Kevala), because there is nothing besides herself. Vagbhava contains five vowels and seven consonants, that is twelve letters. Kamaraja there are six vowels and eight consonants in all fourteen letters. Shakti there are four vowels and six consonants. The total of all these make 36 letters which are the limbs. This Vidya as an entire whole surpasses all the thirty six Tattvas. AUM Sree Matrka devyaii namo namaha. Aum sree Gurave namaha.Harihi Aum. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 5 May 2003 04:53:07 -0000 New file uploaded to Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the group. File : /Geometry of Circannual Rhythms.doc Uploaded by : chandrahari81 Description : Significance of Jyotihsastra - Supreme Science of Tantra: Yoga, Agama, Jyotisha You can access this file at the URL Geometry%20of%20Circannual%20\ Rhythms.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help./help/us/groups/files Regards, chandrahari81 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Mon, 5 May 2003 00:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Friends of Osho The first sutra: Now the discipline of Yoga Athayoganushasanam: Now the discipline of Yoga. Each single word has to be understood, because Patanjali will not use a single superfluous word. Now the discipline of Yoga.... First try to understand the word "now." This "now" is an indication to the state of mind I was just talking to you about. If you are disillusioned, if you are hopeless, if you have completely become aware of the futility of all desires; if you see your life as meaningless; whatsoever you have been doing up to now has simply fallen dead…. Nothing remains in the future, you are in absolute despair -- what Kierkegaard calls anguish -- you are in anguish, suffering…. Not knowing what to do, not knowing where to go, not knowing to whom to turn, just on the verge of madness or suicide or death, your whole pattern of life has suddenly become futile…. If this moment has come, Patanjali says, "Now the discipline of Yoga" -- only now can you understand the science of Yoga, the discipline of Yoga. If that moment has not come you can go on studying Yoga: you can become a great scholar but you will not be a yogi. You can write theses on it, you can give discourses on it, but you will not be a yogi. The moment has not come for you. Intellectually you can become interested, through your mind you can be related to Yoga, but Yoga is nothing if it is not a discipline. Yoga is not a shastra; it is not a scripture. It is a discipline, it is something you have to do. It is not curiosity, it is not philosophical speculation. It is deeper than that -- it is a question of life and death. If the moment has come when you feel that all directions have become confused, all roads have disappeared, the future is dark and every desire has become bitter and through every desire you have known only disappointment, all movement into hopes and dreams has ceased: Now the discipline of Yoga. This "now" may not have come. Then I may go on talking about Yoga but you will not listen. You can listen only if the moment is present in you. Are you really dissatisfied? Everybody will say yes, but that dissatisfaction is not real. You are dissatisfied with this, you may be dissatisfied with that, but you are not totally dissatisfied. You are still hoping. You are dissatisfied because of your past hopes but you are still hoping for the future. Your dissatisfaction is not total: you are still hankering for some satisfaction somewhere, for some gratification somewhere. Sometimes you feel hopeless but that hopelessness is not true. You feel hopeless because certain hopes have not been achieved, certain hopes have fallen away -- but hoping is still there, hoping has not fallen away. You will still hope. You are dissatisfied with this hope, that hope, but you are not dissatisfied with hope as such. If you are disappointed with hope as such the moment has come, and then you can enter Yoga. And then this entry will not be an entering into a mental, speculative phenomenon. This entry will be an entry into a discipline. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Mon, 05 May 2003 08:06:58 -0000 "Nora" Changes in the Homepage : Ritu Kala Ceremony In Hinduism, Life is a sacred journey, and in every stages in ones life ( emotional and biological development ) is consecrated with a sacred ceremony to mark the event. This rites of passage or Samskaras are performed during birth, weddings, funerals, coming of age, pregnancy etc. Ritu Kala Ceremony is a coming of age ceremony for girls to acknowledge her first menses. New clothing and jewelry fit for royalty are presented to and worn by the youth, who is joyously welcomed into the young adult community. Girls receive her first sari. I have the opportunity to be invited to a Ritu Kala Home ceremony of a good friend over the weekend. The parent happily allowed me to take some pictures so that I share with Shakti Sadhana members. http://shaktisadhana.50megs.com/Photo% 20Gallery/ritukala/Aritukala1.html If the above does not work, just go to Shakti Sadhana homepage and click on photogallery. The Pictures are there. http://www.shaktisadhana.org/PhotoGallery.html ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Mon, 05 May 2003 09:10:45 -0000 "Nora" In conversation : The Saptamarkas. [sU ] I was just reading Kali Sahasrnama. Thank you [Nora] You are welcome [ SU ] Are you busy with something? [ Nora ] Nope. I was thinking about The Saptamarkas. They are like the antibodies in our body. They always work in groups and like antibodies they sometimes go berserk [ SU ] Nora..though I am a devotee of the Godess. I am yet to dive deep [ Nora] This withering mind!!!! Just some thoughts to share. Was reading my Pathophysiology book and suddenly I see the parallel between The Saptamarkas and the Antibodies. [sU] I read about Saptha matrikas .and I now feel there is something like this in Chottanikkara. [Nora ] I like to bring all these down to our body. They are all the workings within our body. When our body or the antibodies goes beserk we have a condition called the Immunological disorder. That is when the body cells ( the antibodies ) that is suppose to protect the body began to kills it. What happen then is that the body will triggers another reaction which brings about the production of another form of antibodies of benign form or one need an infusion of antibodies ( sometimes called Immuno globulin ) to neutralise the killer antibodies. Just like The Saptamarkas. SU : Yes! our body is a perfect replica of cosmos which Shri Chakra represents.. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Mon, 5 May 2003 05:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Chandra Hari Re: In conversation : The Saptamarkas. All the Gods Reside in Our BodyMeru is in Our BodyAyodhya is in Our BodyPrayag (Triveni) in Our BodyVaranasi is in Our BodyVaikuntam is in Our BodyKailasam is in our Body........ Nora wrote:[sU ] I was just reading Kali Sahasrnama. Thank you [Nora] You are welcome [ SU ] Are you busy with something? [ Nora ] Nope. I was thinking about The Saptamarkas. They are like the antibodies in our body. They always work in groups and like antibodies they sometimes go berserk [ SU ] Nora..though I am a devotee of the Godess. I am yet to dive deep [ Nora] This withering mind!!!! Just some thoughts to share. Was reading my Pathophysiology book and suddenly I see the parallel between The Saptamarkas and the Antibodies. [sU] I read about Saptha matrikas .and I now feel there is something like this in Chottanikkara. [Nora ] I like to bring all these down to our body. They are all the workings within our body. When our body or the antibodies goes beserk we have a condition called the Immunological disorder. That is when the body cells ( the antibodies ) that is suppose to protect the body began to kills it. What happen then is that the body will triggers another reaction which brings about the production of another form of antibodies of benign form or one need an infusion of antibodies ( sometimes called Immuno globulin ) to neutralise the killer antibodies. Just like The Saptamarkas. SU : Yes! our body is a perfect replica of cosmos which Shri Chakra represents.. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Mon, 05 May 2003 15:20:59 -0000 "omprem" Re: The first sutra: Now the discipline of Yoga OM Friends of Osho Most knowledgeable commentators on the Raja Yoga Sutras of Patanjali translate "atha yoganusasanam" as "Here begins the authoritative instruction on Yoga" or "Now Yoga is explained" These sutras will be listened to with a disciplined intellect and then implemented with a disciplined will, mind and body. Yoga is union with God. Yes, that union requires the end of a speculative mind-set and the adoption of more intuitive means of entering into union with the Divine, but, it first takes discipline and rationality to prepare and purify the student, before the student is capable of entering samadhi. The student must master the Yamas and Niyamas in thought, word and deed, especially as applied to himself or herself. Then, the student must master Asana and Pranayama - the ability to remain unperturbed under all circumstances and to control Prana. Then, the student must turn the senses inward and renounce desire - Pratyahara. The student must develop concentration (on God). Finally, the student is ready for meditation and samadhi. Suffering and hopelessness are useful only if they lead to the aspirant's giving up reliance on his or her own resources and instead relying on God and Guru and placing themselves in the hands of God and Guru. This act of renouncing the ego is the key to God Realization. One doesn't necessarily have to be overwhelmed with suffering and hopelessness for this renunciation of ego to take place. Souls of high evolution do this more easily with each birth. Om Namah Sivaya Omprem , Friends of Osho wrote: > > Athayoganushasanam: Now the discipline of Yoga. > > Each single word has to be understood, because Patanjali will not use a single superfluous word. > > Now the discipline of Yoga.... First try to understand the word "now." This "now" is an indication to the state of mind I was just talking to you about. > > If you are disillusioned, if you are hopeless, if you have completely become aware of the futility of all desires; if you see your life as meaningless; whatsoever you have been doing up to now has simply fallen dead…. Nothing remains in the future, you are in absolute despair -- what Kierkegaard calls anguish -- you are in anguish, suffering…. Not knowing what to do, not knowing where to go, not knowing to whom to turn, just on the verge of madness or suicide or death, your whole pattern of life has suddenly become futile…. If this moment has come, Patanjali says, "Now the discipline of Yoga" -- only now can you understand the science of Yoga, the discipline of Yoga. > > If that moment has not come you can go on studying Yoga: you can become a great scholar but you will not be a yogi. You can write theses on it, you can give discourses on it, but you will not be a yogi. The moment has not come for you. Intellectually you can become interested, through your mind you can be related to Yoga, but Yoga is nothing if it is not a discipline. Yoga is not a shastra; it is not a scripture. It is a discipline, it is something you have to do. It is not curiosity, it is not philosophical speculation. It is deeper than that -- it is a question of life and death. > > If the moment has come when you feel that all directions have become confused, all roads have disappeared, the future is dark and every desire has become bitter and through every desire you have known only disappointment, all movement into hopes and dreams has ceased: Now the discipline of Yoga. > > This "now" may not have come. Then I may go on talking about Yoga but you will not listen. You can listen only if the moment is present in you. Are you really dissatisfied? Everybody will say yes, but that dissatisfaction is not real. You are dissatisfied with this, you may be dissatisfied with that, but you are not totally dissatisfied. You are still hoping. You are dissatisfied because of your past hopes but you are still hoping for the future. Your dissatisfaction is not total: you are still hankering for some satisfaction somewhere, for some gratification somewhere. > > Sometimes you feel hopeless but that hopelessness is not true. You feel hopeless because certain hopes have not been achieved, certain hopes have fallen away -- but hoping is still there, hoping has not fallen away. You will still hope. You are dissatisfied with this hope, that hope, but you are not dissatisfied with hope as such. If you are disappointed with hope as such the moment has come, and then you can enter Yoga. And then this entry will not be an entering into a mental, speculative phenomenon. This entry will be an entry into a discipline. > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Mon, 5 May 2003 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Chandra Hari Re: Re: The first sutra: Now the discipline of Yoga You are very correct and the interpretation given for 'Now' was completely wrong. I hope the commentator will take note of your words. Nothing more to say in this regard as any advise may not be taken in the right spirit. chandra hari omprem wrote:OM Friends of Osho Most knowledgeable commentators on the Raja Yoga Sutras of Patanjali translate "atha yoganusasanam" as "Here begins the authoritative instruction on Yoga" or "Now Yoga is explained" These sutras will be listened to with a disciplined intellect and then implemented with a disciplined will, mind and body. Yoga is union with God. Yes, that union requires the end of a speculative mind-set and the adoption of more intuitive means of entering into union with the Divine, but, it first takes discipline and rationality to prepare and purify the student, before the student is capable of entering samadhi. The student must master the Yamas and Niyamas in thought, word and deed, especially as applied to himself or herself. Then, the student must master Asana and Pranayama - the ability to remain unperturbed under all circumstances and to control Prana. Then, the student must turn the senses inward and renounce desire - Pratyahara. The student must develop concentration (on God). Finally, the student is ready for meditation and samadhi. Suffering and hopelessness are useful only if they lead to the aspirant's giving up reliance on his or her own resources and instead relying on God and Guru and placing themselves in the hands of God and Guru. This act of renouncing the ego is the key === message truncated === Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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