Guest guest Posted May 17, 2003 Report Share Posted May 17, 2003 Today at Venice Beach an importer/exporter who sets up there with beautiful arts and crafts showed me a booklet put out by the Handicraft Association of Nepal. The booklet contained statuettes of Hindu and Buddhist gods and goddesses. It had my favorites Ardhanarishwara/i and Saraswati, but unfortunately, the statues were not on hand. Also, there was a third figure whose name started with an A; it was a male figure, and the info on it said that the god's mantra is "Om Mani Padme Hum" and that he is a god who rejects Nirvana because of the suffering of humanity. He thinks it is selfish to enjoy Nirvana while others suffer. What is this god's name, does anyone know? (And no, it's not Jesus, though his point of view on enjoying life sounds suspiciously Christian, even Catholic....) It was sort of like Adhalokahini or Adhalokihana, or something. Sorry for butchering it, but I'm just trying to jog someone's memory out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 - "roger" <roger <> Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:48 AM Re: God Whose Mantra is Om Mani Padme Hum? > > > - > "Mary Ann" <maryann > <> > Sunday, May 18, 2003 4:45 AM > God Whose Mantra is Om Mani Padme Hum? > > > > Today at Venice Beach an importer/exporter who sets up there > > with beautiful arts and crafts showed me a booklet put out by the > > Handicraft Association of Nepal. The booklet contained > > statuettes of Hindu and Buddhist gods and goddesses. It had > > my favorites Ardhanarishwara/i and Saraswati, but unfortunately, > > the statues were not on hand. Also, there was a third figure > > whose name started with an A; it was a male figure, and the info > > on it said that the god's mantra is "Om Mani Padme Hum" and > > that he is a god who rejects Nirvana because of the suffering of > > humanity. He thinks it is selfish to enjoy Nirvana while others > > suffer. What is this god's name, does anyone know? (And no, it's > > not Jesus, though his point of view on enjoying life sounds > > suspiciously Christian, even Catholic....) It was sort of like > > Adhalokahini or Adhalokihana, or something. Sorry for > > butchering it, but I'm just trying to jog someone's memory out > > there! > > > Om Mani Padme Hung is the mantra of Avalokitesvara, the bodhisattva "who > surveys all" (this is the English language translation of his Sanskrit > name). > The current manifestation of Avalokistesvara on this planet is the Buddhist > monk Tenzin Gyatso whose title is "fourteenth Dalai-Lama". > The wov made by Avalokistesvara is to keep manifesting in Samsara (he has > already realized Nirvana BTW) to help all sentient beings on the way to > Nirvana (the cessation of the creation of delusions) until sentient beings > are freed from suffering. > Avalokistesvara is manifesting in a male form, however from his tears on > seeing the suffering endured by all sentient beings manifested a female form > named Tara (the liberator) who is also a bodhisattva but in a human female > form. She is worshipped both by Hindu and Buddhist devotees. > Tara is one of the ten Mahavidyas of the Devas and those who keep her > lineage are therefore maintaining a six thousands years old lineage (at the > very least...) > You can receive the Avalokitesvara and/or Tara initiation from any Tibetan > Lama (there are already literally hundreds living in the USA and Canada and > in Europe). > > If you have any more questions about both Bodhisattvas feel free to write to > me directly at roger > > Tashi delegs, > Thubten Wangchuk aka > Roger Garin-Michaud > from Saint-Priest near Lyon France > http://www.cyberdistributeur.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Thank you, Roger, for your quick response to my query. I wanted to say that it would be ideal if Avalokitesvara, instead of shedding tears over humanity and splitting the female within himself from himself (thereby creating dualism), could instead reside in Nirvana so as to provide a role model for humanity. Have you any thoughts on this topic? , "roger" <rgarinmichaud@9...> wrote: > > > > Om Mani Padme Hung is the mantra of Avalokitesvara, the bodhisattva "who > > surveys all" (this is the English language translation of his Sanskrit > > name). > > The current manifestation of Avalokistesvara on this planet is the > Buddhist > > monk Tenzin Gyatso whose title is "fourteenth Dalai-Lama". > > The wov made by Avalokistesvara is to keep manifesting in Samsara (he has > > already realized Nirvana BTW) to help all sentient beings on the way to > > Nirvana (the cessation of the creation of delusions) until sentient beings > > are freed from suffering. > > Avalokistesvara is manifesting in a male form, however from his tears on > > seeing the suffering endured by all sentient beings manifested a female > form > > named Tara (the liberator) who is also a bodhisattva but in a human female > > form. She is worshipped both by Hindu and Buddhist devotees. > > > > Tashi delegs, > > Thubten Wangchuk aka > > Roger Garin-Michaud > > from Saint-Priest near Lyon France > > http://www.cyberdistributeur.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hiya, Saraswati is my favorite goddess. But to get to your question, a very similar deity, female who did the exact same thing was named Kwan Yin. In the beginning it was believed Kwan Yin was a male, not female. And since it is open to either in many traditions. Try looking for Kwan Yin (also spelled Quan Yin) and see if it might lead somewhere. Best of luck. Cecilia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 - "Mary Ann" <maryann <> Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:01 PM Re: Fw: God Whose Mantra is Om Mani Padme Hum? > Thank you, Roger, for your quick response to my query. I wanted > to say that it would be ideal if Avalokitesvara, instead of shedding > tears over humanity and splitting the female within himself from > himself (thereby creating dualism), could instead reside in > Nirvana so as to provide a role model for humanity. Have you any > thoughts on this topic? > well I may not have explained myself very clearly. A Buddha is not compelled to take any form and has long ago realised Nirvana. It can therefore manifest in any form or shape, as any specy or material objet (book, tape, bridge, etc...) and is not bound by any pair of opposites. It is "not splitting the female within himself" since in Buddhahood there no female/male duality and no anthropomorphism or any kind of species particular shackles... Hope this makes it clearer to you, Tashi Delegs, Thubten Wangchuk aka Roger Garin-Michaud from Saint-Priest near Lyon France http://www.cyberdistributeur.com > , "roger" > <rgarinmichaud@9...> wrote: > > > > > > > Om Mani Padme Hung is the mantra of Avalokitesvara, the > bodhisattva "who > > > surveys all" (this is the English language translation of his > Sanskrit > > > name). > > > The current manifestation of Avalokistesvara on this planet is > the > > Buddhist > > > monk Tenzin Gyatso whose title is "fourteenth Dalai-Lama". > > > The wov made by Avalokistesvara is to keep manifesting in > Samsara (he has > > > already realized Nirvana BTW) to help all sentient beings on > the way to > > > Nirvana (the cessation of the creation of delusions) until > sentient beings > > > are freed from suffering. > > > Avalokistesvara is manifesting in a male form, however from > his tears on > > > seeing the suffering endured by all sentient beings > manifested a female > > form > > > named Tara (the liberator) who is also a bodhisattva but in a > human female > > > form. She is worshipped both by Hindu and Buddhist > devotees. > > > > > > Tashi delegs, > > > Thubten Wangchuk aka > > > Roger Garin-Michaud > > > from Saint-Priest near Lyon France > > > http://www.cyberdistributeur.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hi Roger: I had thought (because of what I read in the booklet from the Handicraft Assoc. of Nepal) that Avalokitesvara was a human being who had attained Nirvana, and then withheld it from himself, feeling that it was selfish to partake of Nirvana while the majority of humanity suffers. In his choice not to reside in Nirvana (which I have thought of as a state available to him in his form as a male), he cried tears and created a female form, Tara (per what you told me). Are you saying that once he attained Nirvana, he was no longer embodied? And then made the choice to become male, and cry tears and make a female? And possibly I do not understand what it means to "attain Nirvana." I guess I am questioning the God's choice to cry rather than to live in Nirvana as a role model. Just as I question Jesus' choice to lead by choosing the cross, providing that as an example rather than a life rich with what life-giving and joy-making wonders he might have manifested instead. , "roger" <rgarinmichaud@9...> wrote: > - > "Mary Ann" <maryann@m...> > <> > Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:01 PM > Re: Fw: God Whose Mantra is Om Mani Padme Hum? > > > > Thank you, Roger, for your quick response to my query. I wanted > > to say that it would be ideal if Avalokitesvara, instead of shedding > > tears over humanity and splitting the female within himself from > > himself (thereby creating dualism), could instead reside in > > Nirvana so as to provide a role model for humanity. Have you any > > thoughts on this topic? > > > > well I may not have explained myself very clearly. > A Buddha is not compelled to take any form and has long ago realised > Nirvana. > It can therefore manifest in any form or shape, as any specy or material > objet (book, tape, bridge, etc...) > and is not bound by any pair of opposites. > It is "not splitting the female within himself" since in Buddhahood there no > female/male duality and no anthropomorphism or any kind of species > particular shackles... > Hope this makes it clearer to you, > Tashi Delegs, > Thubten Wangchuk aka > Roger Garin-Michaud > from Saint-Priest near Lyon France > http://www.cyberdistributeur.com > > > , "roger" > > <rgarinmichaud@9...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Om Mani Padme Hung is the mantra of Avalokitesvara, the > > bodhisattva "who > > > > surveys all" (this is the English language translation of his > > Sanskrit > > > > name). > > > > The current manifestation of Avalokistesvara on this planet is > > the > > > Buddhist > > > > monk Tenzin Gyatso whose title is "fourteenth Dalai-Lama". > > > > The wov made by Avalokistesvara is to keep manifesting in > > Samsara (he has > > > > already realized Nirvana BTW) to help all sentient beings on > > the way to > > > > Nirvana (the cessation of the creation of delusions) until > > sentient beings > > > > are freed from suffering. > > > > Avalokistesvara is manifesting in a male form, however from > > his tears on > > > > seeing the suffering endured by all sentient beings > > manifested a female > > > form > > > > named Tara (the liberator) who is also a bodhisattva but in a > > human female > > > > form. She is worshipped both by Hindu and Buddhist > > devotees. > > > > > > > > Tashi delegs, > > > > Thubten Wangchuk aka > > > > Roger Garin-Michaud > > > > from Saint-Priest near Lyon France > > > > http://www.cyberdistributeur.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2003 Report Share Posted May 19, 2003 - "C C" <isisartemis4peace <> Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:31 PM Re: Fw: God Whose Mantra is Om Mani Padme Hum? > Hiya, > Saraswati is my favorite goddess. But to get to your question, a very similar deity, female who did the exact same thing was named Kwan Yin. In the beginning it was believed Kwan Yin was a male, not female. And since it is open to either in many traditions. Try looking for Kwan Yin (also spelled Quan Yin) and see if it might lead somewhere. Best of luck. > > Cecilia > Kwan Yin is the Chinese name for Avalokitesvara (which is Sanskrit, therefore Indian). Avalokitesvara is Chenrezig to the Tibetan people. It is also Kannon to the Japanese. Roger Garin-Michaud from Saint-Priest near Lyon France http://www.cyberdistributeur.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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