Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 "One more thing: We are in no position to measure other's ego." Can we measure ego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 "One more thing: We are in no position to measure other's ego." Can we measure ego? By "measure other's ego", I meant finding out if someone is proud or arrogant. To explain further I meant to convey that we cannot say if someone is proud or arrogant by what they post on . The above is in reference to the following statement of yours "I have been trying to understand this and from what I have learn so far from this list and many other, initiation sometimes does not lead one to drop this "ego" but makes them more prideful and arrogance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 By "measure other's ego", I meant finding out if someone is proud or arrogant. To explain further I meant to convey that we cannot say if someone is proud or arrogant by what they post on . I disagree on this. Posts we made on does reflect our personality. The words and the language you use, does tells us something. Just like somebody comes here and say : I am a female, but through the language and their style of writing, we can know weather this person is a male and female. Ask somebody who is an expert in deciphering words and they will agree with me. Once somebody told me : Friends on the or chat does not count, because once you switch off the computer, that friends does not exist. But little do we forget that there are another human being on the other side of the computer. And you can actually feel the energy this person emitted even via the computer ( weather in the form of words posted in the groups or via chat lines ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 Dear Satish, Ravana was a great Shiva bhakta. By constantly meditating on Lord Shiva , he acquired some 'siddhis' - this made him proud and arrogant and he started tormenting and torturing one and all. sO sometimes, mantra-sadhana does increase one's siddhis and thereby inflating one's ego. Also, I am sure you have heard of the story of Vishwamitra and vasishta. Vishwamitra was envious of vasishta! why? this because vishwamitra was a raja rishi and vashista was a brahma rishi. It is only when Vishwamitra conquered his 'ego' did Vashista confer on vishwamitra the title of 'brahma rishi.' In any case, only non-vedantic ego can be measured. the term 'ergo' has a totally different connotation in the context of Advaita and vaishnava schools! In vaishnavism, the jivatma always maintains a separate existence of paramatma. in advaita , the jivatma merges with paramatma and there is no separate identity- there is only *oneness*! "aham brahmasmi" or "tat twam asi" Hari AUM tat sat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 It's only ego which detects ego in an other. So measurement is to take place,..... where? Nora <ashwini_puralasamy wrote: "One more thing: We are in no position to measure other's ego." Can we measure ego? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 "Ravana was a great Shiva bhakta. By constantly meditating on Lord Shiva , he acquired some 'siddhis' - this made him proud and arrogant and he started tormenting and torturing one and all. So sometimes, mantra-sadhana does increase one's siddhis and thereby inflating one's ego" Please remember that even though Ravana grew proud and arrogant due to his siddhis it helped him reach the abode of Lord Vishnu. So as I said the mantradhisthana devata takes care of the sadhaka and will do good finally. "Also, I am sure you have heard of the story of Vishwamitra and vasishta. Vishwamitra was envious of vasishta! why? this because vishwamitra was a raja rishi and vashista was a brahma rishi. It is only when Vishwamitra conquered his 'ego' did Vashista confer on vishwamitra the title of 'brahma rishi." Viswamitra did lot of sadhana. Atleast according to Gandharva tantra he is a Srividyopasaka. Finally he attained good. He became a Brahmarishi. So again, we need not worry about his egos. See, the gods took good care of him. Sri Nora: So let us just do our own sadhana and stop worrying about other's "egos"(in general sense). "In any case, only non-vedantic ego can be measured. the term 'ergo' has a totally different connotation in the context of Advaita and vaishnava schools! In vaishnavism, the jivatma always maintains a separate existence of paramatma. in advaita , the jivatma merges with paramatma and there is no separate identity- there is only *oneness*!"aham brahmasmi" or "tat twam asi" Yes. Ego can mean something different in vedanta and something else in genral terms. In my previous posts on this thread I used ego in both senses as when appropriate. rgds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2003 Report Share Posted June 6, 2003 "Sri Nora: So let us just do our own sadhana and stop worrying about other's "egos"(in general sense)" My ego wants to respond to this, because I disagree on this statement, but it said, why bother. Silence sometimes is the most powerful knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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