Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Hi Mary Ann: I'll take a shot at this one, for what it's worth: *** How necessary is it for those in the West to completely and fully understand every little bit and nuance of Eastern thought/teachings, and vice versa, in order to know the Self? *** It is not necessary at all. You can get the same thing from the mystical traditions of the Abrahamic faiths. It's just that those faiths -- particularly Christianity and Islam -- are much younger, and therefore their simple truths too often get lost in layers of social-political-cultural dogma and "I'm right, you're wrong" polemics. I think a lot of Westerners turn to Eastern thought to escape the non-spiritual baggage that's accumulated around the spiritual traditions they were born into. Others simply belong in the Eastern tradiions by nature, and submerge there fully. But even those who dive just a little bit deep might pick up something of great value. In my opinion, India's greatest cultural treasure is its religious thought. This may sound like precisely the prejudice you're worried about, but I truly believe it is (at least) several centuries ahead of most other religious thought -- perhaps due to its uninterrupted depth of antiquity; perhaps because of the cultural value traditionally placed on personal spiritual exploration in India. I cannot recall the author, but I once read that trying to express the ideas of Hinduism (including itself closely related offshoot, Buddhism) in modern English is an exercise similar to trying to explain Quantum Physics in Shakespearean English: The vocabulary simply hasn't evolved enough to say what needs to be said, because the esoteric concepts themselves have not yet evolved enough in the language's primary cultural context. (BTW, I acknowledge that Islam and Christianity haven't cornered the market on narrowly blinkered, earthbound, lowest-common- denominator "fundamentalist" belief systems. Hinduism -- even with all its mighty depth of tradition and tolerance -- nonetheless begat the creepy BJP, which seems to espouse an oddly cartoonish (but deadly serious) form of "fundamental Hinduism" (an oxymoron if there ever was one). So you see, it's not the so much a given religious tradition itself that is good or bad; it's evolutionary level of the individual practitioner. Which brings me to your second observation: *** Based on my direct experience in yoga, basic alignment principles of the body/mind/emotions/spirit bring self and Self together, even without scripture. While certainly scripture and traditions of many kinds can help, some can also hinder. *** This is true. Whether you approach hatha yoga in its holistic spiritual context, or see it as no more than an especially effective form of calisthenics, it can help you. It is incorrect to say that people who don't buy the whole package are "doing yoga the wrong way." To each according to her/his needs; from each according to her/his abilities. If you're a person of a deeply spiritual nature, Yoga will open itself up to you in a way reflecting your individual need. If you are of a deeply materialistic nature, that's cool too -- hey, it'll make you look buff for the beach. Either way, better to do some of it than none of it. ;-) Thanks for a good post. Hope others can add something more to the dialogue. Aum Maatangyai Namahe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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