Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 Nora, Omprem, et al - In seeking a teacher or a Tantra path, how does one proceed? How does one know a "good" teacher? Thank you. Eric Otto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 It is said that you don't find the guru or the guru find you. Devi herself sets the meeting of a Guru and Sisya, for the Guru is Devi reincarnate in the physical form. Just like our coming together here in the group is not a mere coincidence. It is perhaps meant to be. Things do not happen just for the hack out of it. But the most important thing that we should have is this desire to be guided, and it must come from within. From this inner desire, listen by DEVI herself and she will choose a suitable "guru" for you. There are people who think that they do not need a guru, least they forget that their mother is the first guru. Book knowledge is good, but book will remain a book. Book too is a form of "guru" and is very sacred, but you can never compare bookish knowledge with experience. If I am given a choice between two people: One with all the bookish knowledge and another with an experience, logic tell me that the experience is what I value most and must seek. Swami Rama (the founder of the Himalayan International Institute of Yoga Science and Philosophy and of the Himalayan Institute Hospital trust and Medical College, India) remarked in one of his lectures: A time will come when the seeker goes through a period of argumentation with herself/himself and cannot decide. At this time a real preceptor is needed. How will you find the right master? No one can search for a preceptor. There is a saying in the Scriptures:" When the disciple is prepared, the master appears." This happens only because of samskaras. Teachers and student samskaras are very ancient and strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 N - Yes, this has been the way it has been for me in the past. Teachers have shown up at the most unexpected but correct time. "Teachers and student samskaras are very ancient and strong," I agree with you. The problem with work a day culture is that everything needs to happen imediately rather than in its own time. I forget. He or she will come when he or she will come. Thank you. Eric , "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > It is said that you don't find the guru or the guru find you. > Devi herself sets the meeting of a Guru and Sisya, for the Guru is > Devi reincarnate in the physical form. Just like our coming together > here in the group is not a mere coincidence. It is perhaps meant to > be. > > Things do not happen just for the hack out of it. But the most > important thing that we should have is this desire to be guided, and > it must come from within. From this inner desire, listen by DEVI > herself and she will choose a suitable "guru" for you. There > are people who think that they do not need a guru, least they forget > that their mother is the first guru. Book knowledge is good, but book > will remain a book. Book too is a form of "guru" and is very > sacred, but you can never compare bookish knowledge with experience. > If I am given a choice between two people: One with all the bookish > knowledge and another with an experience, logic tell me that the > experience is what I value most and must seek. > > Swami Rama (the founder of the Himalayan International > Institute of Yoga Science and Philosophy and of the Himalayan > Institute Hospital trust and Medical College, India) remarked in one > of his lectures: A time will come when the seeker goes through a > period of argumentation with herself/himself and cannot decide. At > this time a real preceptor is needed. How will you find the right > master? No one can search for a preceptor. There is a saying in the > Scriptures:" When the disciple is prepared, the master appears." This > happens only because of samskaras. Teachers and student samskaras are > very ancient and strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2003 Report Share Posted August 15, 2003 "Teachers have shown up at the most unexpected but correct time. The problem with work a day culture is that everything needs to happen immediately rather than in its own time. I forget. He or she will come when he or she will come" How true it is Eric. Often in our need to be in a hurry we forgot about the virtues of patience. Does teacher/guru must be in a human form. Geez! I have always thought that Blackie_The_Rascal_Cat, A stray black cat (Norwegian Forest breed) who visits me very often, is my Teacher impromptu. I learn how to meditate from Blackie. LOL. He comes unexpectedly from nowhere and disappears on the day I move to KL. I personally believe that nature too can become our Teacher. Learning should not just be confine to an institution or a classroom. If we only open up our eyes and heart to learning, we can learn from things around us. I believe DEVI have her own unique way of teaching, if only we are observant enough and use the senses that she have given us. How do we distinguish a glass and a diamond? These are not taught in a book. It comes from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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