Akka -How does one best address a goddess?

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Hi Mary Ann -

 

Yes, I am aware of the feminine within. Loving her without is a

starting place. This weekend I came to understand that there needs

to be a shifting here about how I relate to women - all women. If I

am to understand "The Mother" I need to understand that my biological

mother is not all mothers. With my father, that was understood

twenty years ago, i.e., the Father and my father were two different

things and the same thing, too. This is a good place to be.

 

When you brought up Gostic Gospels, that is a different view of Jesus

and a human one. What has been a real puzzle for me was the quote

by Paul saying: "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as

unto the Lord." That angers a lot women in the US and elsewhere on

its immediate face and probably it was used to abuse and hurt women.

With the next eleven lines, he says to men that they have to love

their wifes with a profound and deep love. The man and woman are to

be of one flesh. The man must love her as much as his own body.

Once that happens, then "the wife see[ing] that can reverence him."

What I'm getting is that the onus is on the men. The real submission

is for the man to woman.

 

That's a big understanding and goes along with the Phillip Gospel

quote: "Why do I not love you as (I love) her?" I realize that

perhaps I've not really known love. But I'm still working on that

one.

 

Yes, time for me to look at goddess more profoundly.

 

Thank you for your comments and the others who have commented. I'm

going through a lot of change at the moment because of this shift.

 

Thank you again and love.

 

Eric

 

 

 

, "Mary Ann" <maryann@m...>

wrote:

> Hi Eric: How beautiful, the goddess is in you! Your post made

> me want to post the following: She is not beyond your eyes and

> skin. The woman is you as much as the man is you. It is

> wonderful that you revere the divine feminine/female and honor

> women, but do not only project that outside yourself. She lives in

> every man. Love her there, too, in the same way you are learning

> to love her through her visits to you. Is loving the woman loving

> the man? Is loving the man loving the woman? Why and/or why

> not? Why do we love women and men differently?

>

> I came across this in the book The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine

> Pagels and wanted to post it awhile back, but now seems like a

> good opportunity:

>

> "...the companion of the [savior is] Mary Magdelene. [but Christ

> loved] her more than [all] the disciples, and used to kiss her

> [often] on her [mouth]. The rest of [the discipled were

offended]...

> They said to him, "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The

> Savor answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you as (I

> love) her?" -- Gospel of Phillip

>

> For religious fundamentalists, the answer might be because

> such love would be an abomination! But I feel the question

> articulated by Jesus in the quoted passage is profound and

> enlightening. I welcome more discussion on this topic.

>

> The Gnostic Gospels book is based on Pagels' research into

> texts that were discovered in an earthenware jar at Nag

> Hammadi in Upper Egypt by Muhammud Ali al-Samman, an

> Arab peasant, in 1945. These gospels are claimed to be books

> that were rejected from the official Christian teachings because

> they support an inner relationship with the divine rather than an

> external one, with its hierarchy of domination, as traditional

> Christianity came to be. It is said that these books are

> influenced by Eastern philosophies.

>

> Love,

> Mary Ann

>