Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 You say: "During the meditations, my mind still goes five hundred miles per hour" -- let it go! Let it go faster. You be a watcher. You watch the mind going around so fast, with such speed. Enjoy this! enjoy this play of the mind. In Sanskrit we have a special term for it; we call it CHIDVILAS -- the play of consciousness. Enjoy it! this play of mind rushing towards stars, moving so fast from here and there, jumping all over existence. What is wrong in it? Let it be a beautiful dance. Accept it. My feeling is that what you are doing is you are trying to stop it -- you cannot do that. Nobody can stop the mind! Yes, mind stops one day, but nobody can stop it. Mind stops, but that is not out of your effort. Mind stops out of your understanding. You just WATCH and try to see what is happening, why this mind is rushing. It is not rushing without any reason. You must be ambitious. Try to see WHY this mind is rushing, where it is rushing -- you must be ambitious. If it thinks about money, then try to understand. Mind is not the question. You start dreaming about money, that you have won a lottery or this and that, and then you even start planning how to spend it, what to purchase and what not. Or, the mind thinks you have become a president, a prime minister, and then you start thinking what to do now, how to run the country, or the world. Just WATCH the mind! what mind is going towards. There must be a deep seed in you. You cannot stop the mind unless that seed disappears. The mind is simply following the order of your innermost seed. Somebody is thinking about sex; then somewhere there is repressed sexuality. Watch where mind is rushing. Look deep into yourself, find where the seeds are. In the first place, you cannot succeed; and it is good that you cannot succeed. If you CAN succeed, if you manage to succeed, that will be very unfortunate -- you will become dull, you will lose intelligence. With that speed there is intelligence, with that speed there is continuous sharpening of the sword of thinking, logic, intellect. Please don't try to stop it. I am not in favour of dullards, and I am not here to help anybody to become stupid. I would not suggest that you stop the mind; rather, that you understand. With understanding there happens a miracle. The miracle is that with understanding, by and by, when you understand the causes and those causes are looked into deeply, and through that looking deeply into those causes, those causes disappear, mind slows down. But intelligence is not lost, because mind is not forced. Ambition you carry on -- and you try to stop the mind? Ambition creates the speed, so you are accelerating the speed -- and putting a brake on the mind. You will destroy the whole subtle mechanism of the mind, and mind is a very delicate phenomenon, the most delicate in the whole of existence. So don't be foolish about it. Don't try to stop the mind. Let the mind have its speed -- you watch. - osho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Another perspective-- Quieting the mind requires time, commitment and effort. Certainly, as one commences a practice and attempts, say half an hour or forty-five minutes a day, one benefits, I believe from meditations wherein one simply sits and attempts to neither force the mind into quiet nor not to force the mind into quiet. Just sit absolutely still and comitted not to rise until one's alarm sounds when the time is up. However, I believe that other kinds of meditations ought to go hand in hand with 'just sitting', or 'watching.' Concentrative meditations are very useful, perhaps more so when interspersed with the previously mentioned sort of meditation. Directed meditations can be anything from committedly following one's breath, to meditating on a yantra with eyes open and then closed, alternately, to extended narrative type inner meditations. An effective kind of narrative, relaxation meditation suggests that one visualize colored, sensuous energy entering the body and slowly absorbing, healing, etc., each and every part of one's body. This meditation can require a half an hour or two hours, depending on how slowly one proceeds. Meditations that actively relax the body, prepare the meditator for longer meditative experiences. In any event, I believe that progress in meditation can be very good when both directed and non-directed meditation techniques are used. However, I also believe that progress in meditation, which includes deeper and longer lasting effects of peacefulness and awareness, can only occur with progressively greater commitments of time and effort. One begins with as little time as I can achieve in a meditation. One progresses by pressing forward and building on foundational work, by extending meditation times, and by adding more challenging kinds of directed meditation. As one discovers fulfilment in meditations of extended periods--from one to four or five hours--on a reasonably regular basis, I can almost guarantee that one will have discovered a very peacefully abiding consciousness along the way. My experience indicated to me that if I were to truly progress toward a permanent awareness of peace--even in the midst of tensions and challenges, that my conduct throughout the day must include practices that prepare me for each of twice a day meditations. To progress toward peacefulness, one must, I believe, commit one's entire waking life to preparation for meditation: breathing exercises while driving, standing in lines, etc., choosing not to respond to negative stimulae with similar behavior. Rather, choosing to remain emotionally neutral in circumstances where one does not need to feed one's inner turmoils by repeating scenes, creating inner dialogues, etc. Of course, all of this requires discipline. In my opinion, while simply cultivating "mindfulness" or a "watching" perspective is useful, it is even more useful to cultivate practices like breathwork, inner mantra recitation, which will in turn, lead to progress with maintaining the state of "mindfulness." Rachel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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