Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the pumpkin as a goddess, source of worship and sustenance http://www.washblade.com/2003/10-17/arts/homefront/homefront.cfm Enjoy! Namaste, prainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 "I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the pumpkin as a goddess, source of worship and sustenance" Thanks Prainbow for the article. How right they are to call the Pumpin the goddess of the season. Food is the DEVI herself manifested, this is what I believe. That is why we should not throw away food. Throwing away food is like throwing away the DEVI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 , "prainbow61" <paulie- rainbow@u...> wrote: > I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the pumpkin as > a goddess, source of worship and sustenance > > http://www.washblade.com/2003/10-17/arts/homefront/homefront.cfm > > Enjoy! > > Namaste, > > prainbow Namaste, Pumpkins are 'squash' from the Algonkian tongue 'skeetasquash'. Please spare a thought for these erstwhile woodland peoples, whilst you enjoy your pumpkins. Hallowe'en itself has many parallels with Diwali, also a festival of lights and a time to reflect upon the dear departed. The two festivals are very possibly linked in some remote way, stretching far back into the mists of unrecorded time. Jai Maa, You are the universe: You give, You take, You are the very ground of being - And I am at your feet. m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Namaste, Interesting. I got a little confused when trying to research this online until I found a website that said: "The name Narragansett is actually derived from the word Nanhigganeuck which means `people of the small point.' The language of the Narragansett is of Algonquin origin. They were an eastern woodland people. They lived in large wooden log houses, which were heavily fortified. Their subsistence came from the farming of corn, beans and squash. They also grew tobacco for smoking as well as medicinal use.They were also hunters and fishermen, as well as being expert users of the water. The Narragansetts were proficient swimmers as well as expert canoesmen" Then what I had found on the word origin made sense. Many sites attributed "squash" not to Algonquin's as I had expected but to the Narragansett - which it turns out is a language in the same family and that family is referred to by linguists as "Algonkian" However I didnt' find 'skeetasquash'in my internet travels, perhaps I will another day. I do love language. Thank you for sharing this little tidbit. The Goddess is all, She is the ground that we stand on, and certainly I stand here in America, was born in the Northeast here where those names, those words, those seasons were a part of the song of my childhood. Now I stand here in on the edge of the mountains, where the plains used to wash up against them like a great grassy sea. Where I was born, autumn was an explosion of color. Now I appreciate a subtler change. Now every shade of yellow awakens my heart to the changing season. There is less color, but I am more alive to it. We take the words from our mother's and father's mouths, and then we grow to see our mothers and fathers have come from everywhere. Here's what else I found: http://www.umass.edu/umext/mac/newsletters/autumn98.htm The squash and pumpkin group includes members of four species of the gourd family, Cucurbitaceae. Pumpkin comes from the Greek work pepon, meaning a large melon. Squash gets its name from the Algonquin word for squash "askootasquash." http://www.factmonster.com/spot/aihmwords1.html squash from the Narragansett "askutasquash" http://www.m-w.com/wftw/00oct/101800.htm Pumpkins, gourds and squash (or squashes -- both plurals are standard) are all members of cucurbitaceae, the gourd family of flowering plants. The Latin term for gourd, cucurbita is thought to come ultimately from a non-Indo-European source. English speakers turned the Middle French version of the Latin cucurbita into gourd in the 14th century. Three centuries later, they turned another French term, pompon, into pumpkin. Pumpkin has its roots in a Greek term pepon, meaning "ripened or an edible gourd." For three closely related foods, these terms traveled into English from very diverse sources. Gourd has a non-Indo European origin; pumpkin traces back to Greek, and squash comes from yet another linguistic source: Native American languages. Right around the time the term pumpkin first cropped up in English, Europeans altered a longer version of a term that comes ultimately from the Narraganset word askutasquash (literally, "green thing eaten green"). Namaste Namaste , "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote: > , "prainbow61" <paulie- > rainbow@u...> wrote: > > I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the pumpkin > as > > a goddess, source of worship and sustenance > > > > http://www.washblade.com/2003/10-17/arts/homefront/homefront.cfm > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Namaste, > > > > prainbow > > Namaste, > > Pumpkins are 'squash' from the Algonkian tongue 'skeetasquash'. > Please spare a thought for these erstwhile woodland peoples, whilst > you enjoy your pumpkins. > > Hallowe'en itself has many parallels with Diwali, also a festival of > lights and a time to reflect upon the dear departed. > > The two festivals are very possibly linked in some remote way, > stretching far back into the mists of unrecorded time. > > Jai Maa, > > You are the universe: > > You give, > > You take, > > You are the very ground of being - > > And I am at your feet. > > > > m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Namaste, I do not recall where I picked up this word, but on the net I have seen:- "The term squash comes from the Indian skutasquash meaning "green thing eaten green." http://homecooking.about.com/library/weekly/aa081400a.htm - which I hope is tolerably close to my 'skeetasquash'. , "prainbow61" <paulie- rainbow@u...> wrote: > Namaste, > > Interesting. I got a little confused when trying to research this > online until I found a website that said: > > "The name Narragansett is actually derived from the word > Nanhigganeuck which means `people of the small point.' The language > of the Narragansett is of Algonquin origin. They were an eastern > woodland people. They lived in large wooden log houses, which were > heavily fortified. [This detail is possibly confounded with descriptions of Iroquois long-houses?] Their subsistence came from the farming of corn, > beans and squash. They also grew tobacco for smoking as well as > medicinal use.They were also hunters and fishermen, as well as being > expert users of the water. The Narragansetts were proficient swimmers > as well as expert canoesmen" > > Then what I had found on the word origin made sense. Many sites > attributed "squash" not to Algonquin's as I had expected but to the > Narragansett - which it turns out is a language in the same family > and that family is referred to by linguists as "Algonkian" Yes, it was a huge language family - extending to the Plains Blackfeet [siksika]. > > However I didnt' find 'skeetasquash'in my internet travels, perhaps I > will another day. > > I do love language. Thank you for sharing this little tidbit. The > Goddess is all, She is the ground that we stand on, and certainly I > stand here in America, was born in the Northeast here where those > names, those words, those seasons were a part of the song of my > childhood. > > Now I stand here in on the edge of the mountains, where the plains > used to wash up against them like a great grassy sea. Montana was a Blackfeet location. Where I was > born, autumn was an explosion of color. Now I appreciate a subtler > change. Now every shade of yellow awakens my heart to the changing > season. There is less color, but I am more alive to it. > > We take the words from our mother's and father's mouths, and then we > grow to see our mothers and fathers have come from everywhere. And not only that, we have all come from the same biological Maa - 'Out of Africa' - all of us, Native American, European, from India, China, Nigeria, all. > > Here's what else I found: > > http://www.umass.edu/umext/mac/newsletters/autumn98.htm > > The squash and pumpkin group includes members of four species of the > gourd family, Cucurbitaceae. Pumpkin comes from the Greek work pepon, > meaning a large melon. Squash gets its name from the Algonquin word > for squash "askootasquash." > > http://www.factmonster.com/spot/aihmwords1.html > > squash from the Narragansett "askutasquash" > > http://www.m-w.com/wftw/00oct/101800.htm > > Pumpkins, gourds and squash (or squashes -- both plurals are > standard) are all members of cucurbitaceae, the gourd family of > flowering plants. The Latin term for gourd, cucurbita is thought to > come ultimately from a non-Indo-European source. English speakers > turned the Middle French version of the Latin cucurbita into gourd in > the 14th century. Three centuries later, they turned another French > term, pompon, into pumpkin. Pumpkin has its roots in a Greek term > pepon, meaning "ripened or an edible gourd." > For three closely related foods, these terms traveled into English > from very diverse sources. Gourd has a non-Indo European origin; > pumpkin traces back to Greek, and squash comes from yet another > linguistic source: Native American languages. Right around the time > the term pumpkin first cropped up in English, Europeans altered a > longer version of a term that comes ultimately from the Narraganset > word askutasquash (literally, "green thing eaten green"). Om Namah Shivai m6 > > > Namaste Namaste > > , "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote: > > , "prainbow61" <paulie- > > rainbow@u...> wrote: > > > I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the > pumpkin > > as > > > a goddess, source of worship and sustenance > > > > > > http://www.washblade.com/2003/10- 17/arts/homefront/homefront.cfm > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > prainbow > > > > Namaste, > > > > Pumpkins are 'squash' from the Algonkian tongue 'skeetasquash'. > > Please spare a thought for these erstwhile woodland peoples, whilst > > you enjoy your pumpkins. > > > > Hallowe'en itself has many parallels with Diwali, also a festival > of > > lights and a time to reflect upon the dear departed. > > > > The two festivals are very possibly linked in some remote way, > > stretching far back into the mists of unrecorded time. > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > You are the universe: > > > > You give, > > > > You take, > > > > You are the very ground of being - > > > > And I am at your feet. > > > > > > > > m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 Ah yes, now that I look more closely at the references I found, m-w (merriam webster online) said: Europeans altered a > longer version of a term that comes ultimately from the Narraganset > word askutasquash (literally, "green thing eaten green"). Which is quite similar to your "skutasquash" Language is just fascinating. I recently read that that gay bishop that folks are making such a fuss about said that the bible is "The Bible is the story written by us about our love affair with God," An interesting turnabout on that bit of literature. So many people see it as the writing of their God to them. But I see prayers and texts as expressing our love for and our conception of the Divine. I'm just not used to hearing a Christian feel that way. Refreshing actually, pr , "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote: > Namaste, > > I do not recall where I picked up this word, but on the net I have > seen:- > > "The term squash comes from the Indian skutasquash meaning "green > thing eaten green." > > http://homecooking.about.com/library/weekly/aa081400a.htm > > - which I hope is tolerably close to my 'skeetasquash'. > > > , "prainbow61" <paulie- > rainbow@u...> wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > Interesting. I got a little confused when trying to research this > > online until I found a website that said: > > > > "The name Narragansett is actually derived from the word > > Nanhigganeuck which means `people of the small point.' The language > > of the Narragansett is of Algonquin origin. They were an eastern > > woodland people. They lived in large wooden log houses, which were > > heavily fortified. > > [This detail is possibly confounded with descriptions of Iroquois > long-houses?] > > Their subsistence came from the farming of corn, > > beans and squash. They also grew tobacco for smoking as well as > > medicinal use.They were also hunters and fishermen, as well as > being > > expert users of the water. The Narragansetts were proficient > swimmers > > as well as expert canoesmen" > > > > Then what I had found on the word origin made sense. Many sites > > attributed "squash" not to Algonquin's as I had expected but to the > > Narragansett - which it turns out is a language in the same family > > and that family is referred to by linguists as "Algonkian" > > Yes, it was a huge language family - extending to the Plains > Blackfeet [siksika]. > > > > > However I didnt' find 'skeetasquash'in my internet travels, perhaps > I > > will another day. > > > > I do love language. Thank you for sharing this little tidbit. The > > Goddess is all, She is the ground that we stand on, and certainly I > > stand here in America, was born in the Northeast here where those > > names, those words, those seasons were a part of the song of my > > childhood. > > > > Now I stand here in on the edge of the mountains, where the plains > > used to wash up against them like a great grassy sea. > > Montana was a Blackfeet location. > > Where I was > > born, autumn was an explosion of color. Now I appreciate a subtler > > change. Now every shade of yellow awakens my heart to the changing > > season. There is less color, but I am more alive to it. > > > > We take the words from our mother's and father's mouths, and then > we > > grow to see our mothers and fathers have come from everywhere. > > And not only that, we have all come from the same biological Maa - > 'Out of Africa' - > > all of us, Native American, European, from India, China, Nigeria, all. > > > > > Here's what else I found: > > > > http://www.umass.edu/umext/mac/newsletters/autumn98.htm > > > > The squash and pumpkin group includes members of four species of > the > > gourd family, Cucurbitaceae. Pumpkin comes from the Greek work > pepon, > > meaning a large melon. Squash gets its name from the Algonquin word > > for squash "askootasquash." > > > > http://www.factmonster.com/spot/aihmwords1.html > > > > squash from the Narragansett "askutasquash" > > > > http://www.m-w.com/wftw/00oct/101800.htm > > > > Pumpkins, gourds and squash (or squashes -- both plurals are > > standard) are all members of cucurbitaceae, the gourd family of > > flowering plants. The Latin term for gourd, cucurbita is thought to > > come ultimately from a non-Indo-European source. English speakers > > turned the Middle French version of the Latin cucurbita into gourd > in > > the 14th century. Three centuries later, they turned another French > > term, pompon, into pumpkin. Pumpkin has its roots in a Greek term > > pepon, meaning "ripened or an edible gourd." > > For three closely related foods, these terms traveled into English > > from very diverse sources. Gourd has a non-Indo European origin; > > pumpkin traces back to Greek, and squash comes from yet another > > linguistic source: Native American languages. Right around the time > > the term pumpkin first cropped up in English, Europeans altered a > > longer version of a term that comes ultimately from the Narraganset > > word askutasquash (literally, "green thing eaten green"). > > Om Namah Shivai > > m6 > > > > > > > Namaste Namaste > > > > , "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote: > > > , "prainbow61" <paulie- > > > rainbow@u...> wrote: > > > > I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the > > pumpkin > > > as > > > > a goddess, source of worship and sustenance > > > > > > > > http://www.washblade.com/2003/10- > 17/arts/homefront/homefront.cfm > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > prainbow > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Pumpkins are 'squash' from the Algonkian tongue 'skeetasquash'. > > > Please spare a thought for these erstwhile woodland peoples, > whilst > > > you enjoy your pumpkins. > > > > > > Hallowe'en itself has many parallels with Diwali, also a festival > > of > > > lights and a time to reflect upon the dear departed. > > > > > > The two festivals are very possibly linked in some remote way, > > > stretching far back into the mists of unrecorded time. > > > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > > > You are the universe: > > > > > > You give, > > > > > > You take, > > > > > > You are the very ground of being - > > > > > > And I am at your feet. > > > > > > > > > > > > m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Namaste, Happy Diwali - There is worth within the bible, but as a text it has been used as a pretext for subjugation and indoctrination. Om Tara - m6 , "prainbow61" <paulie- rainbow@u...> wrote: > Ah yes, now that I look more closely at the references I found, m-w > (merriam webster online) said: > > Europeans altered a > > longer version of a term that comes ultimately from the Narraganset > > word askutasquash (literally, "green thing eaten green"). > > Which is quite similar to your "skutasquash" > > Language is just fascinating. > > I recently read that that gay bishop that folks are making such a > fuss about said that the bible is "The Bible is the story written by > us about our love affair with God," > > An interesting turnabout on that bit of literature. So many people > see it as the writing of their God to them. > > But I see prayers and texts as expressing our love for and our > conception of the Divine. > > I'm just not used to hearing a Christian feel that way. Refreshing > actually, > > pr > > > > , "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > I do not recall where I picked up this word, but on the net I have > > seen:- > > > > "The term squash comes from the Indian skutasquash meaning "green > > thing eaten green." > > > > http://homecooking.about.com/library/weekly/aa081400a.htm > > > > - which I hope is tolerably close to my 'skeetasquash'. > > > > > > , "prainbow61" <paulie- > > rainbow@u...> wrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Interesting. I got a little confused when trying to research this > > > online until I found a website that said: > > > > > > "The name Narragansett is actually derived from the word > > > Nanhigganeuck which means `people of the small point.' The > language > > > of the Narragansett is of Algonquin origin. They were an eastern > > > woodland people. They lived in large wooden log houses, which > were > > > heavily fortified. > > > > [This detail is possibly confounded with descriptions of Iroquois > > long-houses?] > > > > Their subsistence came from the farming of corn, > > > beans and squash. They also grew tobacco for smoking as well as > > > medicinal use.They were also hunters and fishermen, as well as > > being > > > expert users of the water. The Narragansetts were proficient > > swimmers > > > as well as expert canoesmen" > > > > > > Then what I had found on the word origin made sense. Many sites > > > attributed "squash" not to Algonquin's as I had expected but to > the > > > Narragansett - which it turns out is a language in the same > family > > > and that family is referred to by linguists as "Algonkian" > > > > Yes, it was a huge language family - extending to the Plains > > Blackfeet [siksika]. > > > > > > > > However I didnt' find 'skeetasquash'in my internet travels, > perhaps > > I > > > will another day. > > > > > > I do love language. Thank you for sharing this little tidbit. The > > > Goddess is all, She is the ground that we stand on, and certainly > I > > > stand here in America, was born in the Northeast here where those > > > names, those words, those seasons were a part of the song of my > > > childhood. > > > > > > Now I stand here in on the edge of the mountains, where the > plains > > > used to wash up against them like a great grassy sea. > > > > Montana was a Blackfeet location. > > > > Where I was > > > born, autumn was an explosion of color. Now I appreciate a > subtler > > > change. Now every shade of yellow awakens my heart to the > changing > > > season. There is less color, but I am more alive to it. > > > > > > We take the words from our mother's and father's mouths, and then > > we > > > grow to see our mothers and fathers have come from everywhere. > > > > And not only that, we have all come from the same biological Maa - > > 'Out of Africa' - > > > > all of us, Native American, European, from India, China, Nigeria, > all. > > > > > > > > Here's what else I found: > > > > > > http://www.umass.edu/umext/mac/newsletters/autumn98.htm > > > > > > The squash and pumpkin group includes members of four species of > > the > > > gourd family, Cucurbitaceae. Pumpkin comes from the Greek work > > pepon, > > > meaning a large melon. Squash gets its name from the Algonquin > word > > > for squash "askootasquash." > > > > > > http://www.factmonster.com/spot/aihmwords1.html > > > > > > squash from the Narragansett "askutasquash" > > > > > > http://www.m-w.com/wftw/00oct/101800.htm > > > > > > Pumpkins, gourds and squash (or squashes -- both plurals are > > > standard) are all members of cucurbitaceae, the gourd family of > > > flowering plants. The Latin term for gourd, cucurbita is thought > to > > > come ultimately from a non-Indo-European source. English speakers > > > turned the Middle French version of the Latin cucurbita into > gourd > > in > > > the 14th century. Three centuries later, they turned another > French > > > term, pompon, into pumpkin. Pumpkin has its roots in a Greek term > > > pepon, meaning "ripened or an edible gourd." > > > For three closely related foods, these terms traveled into > English > > > from very diverse sources. Gourd has a non-Indo European origin; > > > pumpkin traces back to Greek, and squash comes from yet another > > > linguistic source: Native American languages. Right around the > time > > > the term pumpkin first cropped up in English, Europeans altered a > > > longer version of a term that comes ultimately from the > Narraganset > > > word askutasquash (literally, "green thing eaten green"). > > > > Om Namah Shivai > > > > m6 > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Namaste > > > > > > , "m6" <megalith6@h...> > wrote: > > > > , "prainbow61" <paulie- > > > > rainbow@u...> wrote: > > > > > I found this delightful holiday article that addresses the > > > pumpkin > > > > as > > > > > a goddess, source of worship and sustenance > > > > > > > > > > http://www.washblade.com/2003/10- > > 17/arts/homefront/homefront.cfm > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > prainbow > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Pumpkins are 'squash' from the Algonkian tongue 'skeetasquash'. > > > > Please spare a thought for these erstwhile woodland peoples, > > whilst > > > > you enjoy your pumpkins. > > > > > > > > Hallowe'en itself has many parallels with Diwali, also a > festival > > > of > > > > lights and a time to reflect upon the dear departed. > > > > > > > > The two festivals are very possibly linked in some remote way, > > > > stretching far back into the mists of unrecorded time. > > > > > > > > Jai Maa, > > > > > > > > You are the universe: > > > > > > > > You give, > > > > > > > > You take, > > > > > > > > You are the very ground of being - > > > > > > > > And I am at your feet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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