Thanks

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

Not seeing the article fully I don't feel I can comment to much. But I feel

that if the man would like to offer a drop of blood to Ma that is between

him and Ma honestly. Maybe it is what she asked of him or deep in him he

feels he must do for her.

 

I myself offer her my blood. Now I am sorry because I know there are

gentlemen on here but the blood I offer is not blood you can offer if you

know what I mean. I do not want to get graphic here and "gross " anyone out.

I am greatful I am married to a man who understands how sacred my moonblood

is. I was moved to do this and felt odd about it for awhile I suppose

because of the western views in my society and among my friends and what

they might think. I have since discovered several women who do the same to

Ma. She brought them to me to show me she is leading me and to trust her.

 

So I see his offer as something of love between him and Mama. I can't say

this would be right for all of us. I am sure she knows who will do this

right and leads them to do so. It out of love that I make my offering.

 

I hope I am making sense here.

 

As for his predictions. Well good for him I guess. If people wish to line up

to ask him for such let them. Who am I to say he is wrong or right?

 

Again having not seen the article in full I feel I can't fully comment

because there may be more to the story.

 

 

Jai Ma!

 

Shelly

CT

[Guest guest]

Om Kali Shelly Ma,

 

Yes you made a lot of sense.

 

Offering menstrual blood is allowed in tantric practice but it will

be better if it is done with proper method. Learning the proper

method will be good approach on this matter

 

However once the menstrual cycle stops I wonder what will be your

offering or would there no more offering to be made ???

 

Since it is out of love , I believe the scripture says anything

offered out of love is accepted but that is in bhakthi yoga .And

menstrual is offered in tantric path which must be based on proper

procedures……………….

 

Please note in usual circumstances the lady during the menstrual

cycle are not allowed to step into temple as she is considered not

clean . Even at home she would be refrained from cooking and does not

get involve in any household activities but stays alone . However in

tantric practice the very not clean item is offered to God because to

bring the practioner beyond both positive and negative perception of

things . The tantrik learns that nothing is impure in this world and

pure or impureness are based on one's mind and not on essence of

things .

 

Shelly Ma is right to say that if you are doing something out of love

Ma will guide us through one day. However we must be open to know

when is the moment and willing to change according to the way she is

trying to teach us without being attached to the old way when She

show us the path

 

Let me share a story on this matter;

 

A man use to pray very devotedly to Lord Krishna and Lord Krishna

said there is a flood coming to your village and I will save you.

True enough in two days a flood swept and people saw this man

reciting Krshna name in his house .One of them called him out as the

water was at his calf level. The devoted man replied not to worry as

Krsna promised to save him. After sometime a group of men called at

him as the water have raised to the level of their shoulder and the

devoted man asked them to go away and told them not to worry as Krsna

promised to save him. About half an hour later few boats men came on

their boat and called him out and he gave them the same answer.

 

Sadly he died with frustration stood at the heaven door when the Lord

Yama ( Lord of Death) told Krsna this guy was not on the list .

Before Krsna could say hello the devoted man asked furiously why did

Lord Krsna did not keep up to his promise and Lord Krsna answered

"

You mean to say , you did not follow the first guy ,the group of men

nor the boatmen!!!!

 

Ma guide us through guru, scripture and in our heart. Trusting our

heart is good if we are pure inside . Cultivation of devotion would

be better with assistant of Guru or scriptures.

 

 

The majority seem to associate love for God according to one `s

own

practice will suffice in spiritual pursuit . The shastras says those

with pure unconditional love alone are fit for this . For the rest of

us it is good to go through a guided approach -ritual

 

Bhagawan Ramakrishna use to say do not worry about rituals once you

have pure love it (ritual) will drop by itself like the husk that

drops from the rice once the rice mature but he also said rituals

are necessary during the early evolution of an aspirant spiritual

life as important as embankment of river for the water to reach the

ocean. Once the water reach the ocean the embankment is not necessary

anymore…………..

 

Once Swami Vivekakanada after Bhagawan passed away saw a group of

bramachari sannyasi getting emotional singing a song and rebuked them

saying mere emotionalism does not reflect nor cultivate devotion for

God.

 

I love your devotion for Mama and hope She blesses you with more

devotion towards Her ……………………..

 

May you cultivate pure love for Her………….

 

May She always guide your inner self closer to Her……………..

 

May the scripture and guru manifest your unconditional love for Her

…………

 

 

Jai Kali !!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

Kali_Ma, kalima <kalima@s...> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Not seeing the article fully I don't feel I can comment to much.

But I feel

> that if the man would like to offer a drop of blood to Ma that is

between

> him and Ma honestly. Maybe it is what she asked of him or deep in

him he

> feels he must do for her.

>

> I myself offer her my blood. Now I am sorry because I know there are

> gentlemen on here but the blood I offer is not blood you can offer

if you

> know what I mean. I do not want to get graphic here and "gross "

anyone out.

> I am greatful I am married to a man who understands how sacred my

moonblood

> is. I was moved to do this and felt odd about it for awhile I

suppose

> because of the western views in my society and among my friends and

what

> they might think. I have since discovered several women who do the

same to

> Ma. She brought them to me to show me she is leading me and to

trust her.

>

> So I see his offer as something of love between him and Mama. I

can't say

> this would be right for all of us. I am sure she knows who will do

this

> right and leads them to do so. It out of love that I make my

offering.

>

> I hope I am making sense here.

>

> As for his predictions. Well good for him I guess. If people wish

to line up

> to ask him for such let them. Who am I to say he is wrong or right?

>

> Again having not seen the article in full I feel I can't fully

comment

> because there may be more to the story.

>

>

> Jai Ma!

>

> Shelly

> CT

[Guest guest]

I am very fortunate I suppose that my cycle allows me each month to offer

Mama my moonblood at the dark moon. It is at that time I have my own special

ritual with this offering. The rest of the month I may offer her anything

from food to my tears to the work I do as a wife and mother that serve my

family. I also have a garden and will offer the best from it and the special

plants I have only growing for her I tend to with prayer and reverence. I

sing and offer my voice in song to her.

 

I also recieved a long time ago a recipe I suppose of an insence that can be

made with mentral blood to offer to Kali. So I will offer that as well.

 

I have read about how a woman is unclean during her moontime. I am sorry to

say I think a savite is behind this. I personally belive long ago that much

like the Native Americans a woman at this time must have been honored and

revered but who else but a woman could bleed like this and not die? It is a

time of power and connection to the Earth. I know I had read someplace that

it was really the power that the women have at this time that scared the

men. I will try to remember where it was I read this but I know it came from

a Hindu book. I will admit I like the idea of a rest once a month to

mediate and honor this special time that one day will leave me and I will

have great sorrow but will revel in the fact that I am going to be going to

a new stage in my life. At this time yes my offerings will change and Mama

will let me know what to do. I have no attachement to it I guess you could

say except that I love Mama and this is my offering at this time.

Unfortunately I do not have the support to stop functions as they are in

this house. As many may or may not know I am the mother of 5 children whom I

homeschool so they are with me 24/7 nearly. My children(boys included) do

know when it is mom's moontime and know to let me rest as much as I am able.

I do scale back on things to rest spending the week before cleaning and

preparing for my blessed event. Meals are more simple and we often stay home

that week.

 

Years ago my husband suggested I take extra time for myself and gather a

special basket of supplies for my moon time for a ritual bath. I had just

dreamed this as an old woman had come to me and said it was time for me to

offer myself more fully. And since I have done this. Either in the ritual

bath or in the early spring and fall I am known to sit on the grass and

bleed as my offering. So it is not always at my altar.

 

When pregnant the last two time I offered both my children to her. If you

were to meet my youngest son Jacob you would see pure devotional love for

Mama. He awakes and says good moring to her and will ask to hold my satues

and so he can put his face to her and just sigh with love and close his

eyes. For my Guru Ammachi he does the same thing and says, "Amma is Kali and

Kali is Amma" with a big smile and then he will go on and on about how much

he loves her. I actually had a hard time this last time we went for Darshan

as he wanted so much to just go to her and not have to wait to see her like

we did.

 

My last pregnancy ended with my child dying in the womb (at 4 months

pregnant) . I had offered this little one to her from the moment I found

out. When the ultra sound showed my baby had died I was filled with

confusion and anger but I offered the baby to her still. Those who know my

full story know that Mama was with me the 2 weeks I walked trying to

miscarry my dead baby to avoid the hospital. I took me sometime to see that

the little baby chose me for the short life it needed to then merge with

Mama.

 

I am sorry I did not mean to ramble here or sound like a mad woman either in

my devotion for Mother. I just love her so very very much. I belive she

guides me and shows me what it is I need to know. She brings in the people I

need to have in my life to teach me and share with me to help me remember

what it is I have lost and forgotten this time around to show me that I do

know in my heart what I need to do.

 

It was brought up weather there is a wrong way and a right way to offer or

do ritual to Mama. I suppose one could say there is a right way and I pray

and ask for forgiveness when I offer that I am just wife and mother and a

woman and that my offerings will please her and to forgive me if I do

something wrong. And Mama smiles at me and laughs and tells me "my child

there is no wrong in my eyes...for only love is needed"

 

Jai Ma!

 

Shelly

[Guest guest]

!! Ammae Narayana !!

 

To

The Shakti Sadhana Group

 

Firstly I would like to thanks the Shakti Sadhana Group, for

accepting my membership and for doing wonderful work in the field

of divinity. wishing you all the very best

 

proverb

"Offering the fruit of our action to God, KARMAYOG,

Attains peace in the shape of god Realization "

-Bagavad Gita

 

with regards

Divine member

[Guest guest]

DEAR all,

 

First my appology to Devi Baktha and Kochu Menon for not thanking and

responding on time.

 

I encountered the similar problem as one of the member clearly expressed, so

,I decided to try first and then respond but in the meanwhile,my husband

cautioned me of virus scare and suggested me to update my software before

opening the e-mail. This took 3 whole days. Hence delay.

 

I went through the audo from Guruji and try to follow the wording with Mrs.

Kandaswami's suggested site - but the problem remains the same. I could not

follow the text with audio (word to word).

 

If you have already send the stotram - then may be I did not receive it, as

my mail box was overloaded. So, can you please suggest an alternate site

from where I can get above stotram and follow the same with audio recoding

of Guruji.

 

Thanks in advance, raji.

 

 

 

>"Devi Bhakta" <devi_bhakta

>

>

> Re: Lost in the Khadgamala Stotram

>Mon, 03 May 2004 15:35:27 -0000

>

>Dear Brianna:

>

>Thanks as always for your comments about the Khadgamala Devis Series.

>I suspect that you are correct when you say, "It's not that it's

>really obvious to everyone else! It's just that some of us who are

>also struggling with it have not spoken up."

>

>Well, I thank you for speaking up. As I mentioned to prainbow, it's

>the only way we can hope to improve the presentation. We're only 6

>weeks into a 108-week series, so I hope we'll be forgiven if we're

>still struggling with the right way to present things.

>

>Please have a quick look at my replies to msbauju and prainbow (posts

>#9848 and 9849); that pretty much summarizes my game plan for now. If

>you have further suggestions or advice, I'd be happy to hear it. :-)

>

>Finally, I really liked what you said here:

>

>*** I remember how terrified I was to try the Lalita Sahasranama (1000

>names of the Divine Mother) for the first time. I had to do the same

>thing, learn one name at a time, with the pronunciation guide, and now

>I don't stumble over it so clumsily. I think the same will be with KS. ***

>

>Fantastic advice, right on target and absolutely true. I think a lot

>of members will appreciate it. Thanks again for your comments.

>

>DB

>

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Raji:

 

If you click on the photo or name of the Khadgamala Devi of the week,

you'll be taken to a page where you can download the corrected

document. You'll also find the corrected text by clicking "Files" in

the menu at left. Fonts for viewing the Devanagari script and Roman

transliteration are there also.

 

Best of luck

 

DB

 

, "rajeshwari iyer"

<rajii31@h...> wrote:

> DEAR all,

>

> First my appology to Devi Baktha and Kochu Menon for not thanking

and

> responding on time.

>

> I encountered the similar problem as one of the member clearly

expressed, so

> ,I decided to try first and then respond but in the meanwhile,my

husband

> cautioned me of virus scare and suggested me to update my software

before

> opening the e-mail. This took 3 whole days. Hence delay.

>

> I went through the audo from Guruji and try to follow the wording

with Mrs.

> Kandaswami's suggested site - but the problem remains the same. I

could not

> follow the text with audio (word to word).

>

> If you have already send the stotram - then may be I did not

receive it, as

> my mail box was overloaded. So, can you please suggest an

alternate site

> from where I can get above stotram and follow the same with audio

recoding

> of Guruji.

>

> Thanks in advance, raji.