Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 is there anything such as "true" and "non-true" tantrics? i have not come accross any. youth has its follies. Lets forgive. For "to err is human; to forgive is devine" Kochu gitaprana <gitaprana wrote: Dear Sister Usha- I really appreciate your postings. They are always filled with food for thought, very far reaching, and you have the courage to ask very good questions. Please continue. The really "powerful" Tantrics I know are people of profound humility and kindness, who have a true sense of awe and wonder, living at the heart of the manifested Devi. Who knows what these other confrontational folks are up to?! I am studying the Mundaka Upanishad right now. In it there are some slokas that might apply to their case, for instance: "Dwelling in the midst of many kinds of ignorance, these "children" think "We have achieved the goal". The Upanishad is talking about those who perform Vedic yajnas for self-serving ends, but I think it could also apply to Tantrics who perform sadhana with an eye to gaining siddhis, bigtime powers. I think those folks must end up a little like the ghost of Jacob Marley in Dickens' CHRISTMAS CAROL, trailing piles of long and heavy chains. Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa used to beg the Mother not to give him powers. I think you have said often in your postings, the real power is love. To me, that is the challenge for true Tantrics, to realize and manifest this power of the Devi in our own lives. Don't you agree? Jai Ma, Gitaprana - Sister Usha Devi Friday, January 09, 2004 5:45 AM Does Tantra advocate hatred? My dearest friends, Today I received a off-list letter from a r to this list. This person said that s/he believes that I an not a true tantric. S/he continued to say that s/he prays that someday soon an avatara will appear and destroy people like me. Does tantra teach hatred toward others? Does Tantra teach that someday the Divine will destroy all non-tantrists? I have never heard this, and if it is true that this is what tantra teaches, then I want nothing to do with the philosophy. I believe that faith is an intensely personal thing. It is one person interacting with the Divine. The choice of how and when and where a person chooses to do this is a decision for that person and the Divine, nobody else. Others can make suggestions, but no person has the right to condemn another for this decision. I have always tried to learn from people of all faiths. This includes not only Hindus but Jews and Moslems and Christians and Wiccans and Atheists and all people that I have met. I listen patiently and ask questions, learning what they do and how and why they do it. I do not judge except if they believe that their faith compels them to hate others. Please let us all love one another. No person has a monopoly on wisdom, and only a fool believes that s/he has nothing to learn. Sister Usha Links / b.. c.. / Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Namaste Kochu, Am responding to this coz I used the term non true tantrics in an earlier post. By that I just meant ppl who make money using the name tantra, without actually teaching any thing that is there in tantra. That is all. Am not sure what Gitaprana meant by true tantrics. Maybe she meant those tantrics who understood the essence/teachings of tantra well. Rgds , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > is there anything such as "true" and "non-true" tantrics? i have not come accross any. > youth has its follies. Lets forgive. For "to err is human; to forgive is devine" > > Kochu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 > Am responding to this coz I used the term non true tantrics in an > earlier post. By that I just meant ppl who make money using the name > tantra, without actually teaching any thing that is there in tantra. I would disapprove of such practices also. There is already too much hyprocrisy in the world without adding this sort of injustice. Sister Usha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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