Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Had this interesting discussion with a Good friend of mine. And I like to share it with everybody. Perhaps we can continue this discussion with regards to our sadhana. [AA ] Do you guys watch this show over there? I've been such a fan for the past 2 seasons and enjoying this new season too. I still can't believe how some participants can be so ignorant about their lack of talent - it's a singing contest so better have a great vocal ability. Duh? On the other hand when I looked at some of the comments made by the participants, I'm not surprised. Why? Because, from a young age, they are nurtured to stand up for themselves, believe that they can do whatever it takes and have really, really BIG dreams. However, I still do think some of them make a fool of themselves. [N] I think this is a good form of experience. I don't think so its about being ignorant, but more of being daring and bold enough to go up there to do it. I thought this is what American Dream is all about? If you don't do it, how would you know? Before I resigned from Mount Elizabeth, I was doing a research with the Night Manger on : Patient Falls, a Comparative study in an Acute Medical Ward [ Private hospital ] and we were being invited to present out findings at the Asia Pacific Nursing conference. My role as a research assistant was just to collection data and preparing the presentations and it was my nursing manager who is supposed to present the paper. On that day, she got cold feet, and said, she couldn't do it. Eventually I have to do it. You could imagine how terrified I was on that day, I thought I am going to make a fool out of myself, but if I don't do it, who else. And so I did. I told the audience [ it was in the main conference hall ] the truth and they were very nice about it. Guided me along until the whole presentation is over. During lunch, one of the conference participant [ a lecturer from University of Australia Nursing Department ] came to me and said : I salute you for your courage. What I learnt from this experience is that : you must be brave to take that first step. Should not listen to negative comments. There are always people who will try to make you feel small and make you feel terrible, but nobody can do that without your permission. I did not have the opportunity to see the American idol show, but in my opinion,everything comes with a dream big or small. And I think teaching our children to stand up for themselves and believe that they can do whatever it takes and have really, really BIG dreams has its good points. Isn't this how the learning process is all about. As they progress along, they came to the realization of their limitation and learn to be practical. [AA] N- your presentation is focus to the nursing community and not the entire nation of the USA! That's hardly a fair comparison. It's like comparing apples to oranges. That great that you had the courage and you were applauded and I think you did a super job on it - you stepped up to the plate. That's not easy to do. Anyway, you have the goods to deliver, you know what you're talking about because you researched it, you know almost everything about the subject you about to share. I agree that the experience is good but don't you think if any contestant is blasted on national TV and literally butchered by the judges, then the self image/self esteem get injured and bruised. It's terribly traumatic. I still remembered the poor guy named Keith who sang a Madonna number and got pounded by the judges and I wonder what happened to him now? The American Idol is a singing contest, they have to sing and show their vocal talent. So, first criteria is - they better have a singing voice good enough to show off. The American Dream is not about being famous or being in the entertainment industry. Basically, it is about making it and being successful in America. It means different things to different people. For those refugees who come here, to be able to hold down a job or have a business and own a house is an American Dream. For some people it is about acquiring wealth - fancy houses, boats, luxury cars and vacationing several times a year. For others, it may be about being Governor of California eg, Arnold Schwaggner - he said in his speech that winning the election for Governor is his American Dream. So, interpret the "American Dream" in a more wider and personalized sense. Yes, we need to encourage and nurture our children to speak their minds. Nevertheless, I need to qualify that our children better have the information and think creatively to defend whatever positions that they are speaking up for ie, they should know their stuff first even before opening their mouth to say something. We have a lot to do for our children. I know all of us will do our best to guide, protect and nurture our children to be independent thinkers. [N] Yes! I agree with you. I am just using the nursing experience as an example, instead of blabbing about other issue I have no or just a superficial knowledge. But the main point I am saying is the Desire to try it out. To be brave and be courageous. To be frank I was not prepared and my inner fear is "making a fool of myself". But the main idea that I always hold on to: be honest with yourself and others. So what if I made a fool of myself. It is this ability to laugh at oneself is inner strength. It is traumatic for those who are weak and are not prepared. Nobody can destroy your self-image or esteem with out your consent. When these young uns undertake this quest are they not being made aware of the risk they are taking? They have seen how others are being question etc. So it's the risk takers. So what! That is them; I might be different, as they would have said. It is the desire to take the challenges that propel one to the higher plan. Just like when you try to do mountain climbing. There are risks and if you are not prepared or have the survival instinct you will not make it. The ultimate end of the mountain climbing in my opinion is not reaching the top, though that is the ultimate end. For every beginning there are the end. So the top is just the end of the journey, but what is taking place is the process or I would say the transformation one undergoes as they journey through that mountain trek, facing the problems, the risk and experiences the beauty of mother nature. Along the way you might get injured, bruises for some, but the main point is the desire to go on, to continue to prove that you have made it and that you are not being cowed. Isn't this the same desire that made people to continue to climb Mount Everest even though they are aware of the no of deaths, the risk etc. Eventually we come to the basic point: The Survival of the fittest. >From my point of view these so called traumatic experiences would strengthen the person, to look at their failures and try to improve themselves. Perhaps this is what the concept of American Idol is all about? So how does one make it and being successful in America? Isn't it about-facing the tribulations and the desire to take risk? If you fall, get up! And try again. Go on trying until you made it. In the process of learning, Information does not come to you, sometimes you have to seek it, to learn from experiences, learning from mistakes and taking responsible for their own actions. This is what we, as parents should teach our children. Taking responsibilies. In my opinion self-realization is a very important aspect of any learning process. What is the difference between information and knowledge? In my opinion information is just garbage with out an understanding. Knowledge is information with an understanding. How does one get this understanding? From personal experience. Books or words of our guru can only take us to a certain juncture eventually we have to strike it on our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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