Guest guest Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 93 Greetings! >From the point of view of kabbalah, God is above gender (or includes both). In His Holiest Name, YHVH, two letters are "male" and two - "female". Thus YHVH is not patriarchal figure. Unfortunately, many ppl understood God in this manner, but this is simply a result of society type. BTW in some sufi traditions Allah is seen as Beloved! In this case we can say Allah is Shakti... God bless! A. , "Mary Ann" <maryann@m...> wrote: > Thank you for your kind response. I guess the "translation," or > imaginative re-interpretation, or whatever is it, works for me > because I see "God" as potentially a patriarchal term, and "Sacred > Unity" or "all that is and is not" are preferable in being non- > gendered. I have not yet found the basis of "Sacred Unity" as a > translation of "Alaha" in the book, only a statement that it can be. > I will see if there are meanings listed that lead to "Sacred Unity" > and if so, I will post them if anyone is interested (I am I did > also feel the author was reaching to make Jesus' sayings fit what he > wants them to say, and decided I probably would NOT be sending this > book to my born-again sister in an attempt to bridge the gap between > us! > > Love, > Mary Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 93 Sufi in it's proper sense are mystics of Islam only. If we start using this term as designating ANY mystic, it becomes equal to words "kaula", "gnostic", "tsaddik" etc used in same sense. Then we can say that there're muslim kaulas :-). It is true also; but it is easier to use these terms as they are, with correspondance to cultural surrounding of those esoteric traditions. Love is the law, love under will. A. , Brianna Mosteller <rubyrapunzel> wrote: > > BTW in some sufi traditions Allah is seen as > > Beloved! In this case we > > can say Allah is Shakti... > > All sufi traditions refer to God as Beloved. Sufism > has no religion- is not necessarily mystical aspect of > Islam only. There are hindu sufis, jain sufis, > christian sufis, ect. The naqshbandi order are the > silent ones. The master creates love in the shishya's > heart- a fire that consumes the ego. They do japa with > the mantra "la il lillah" or il la illallah" (there is > only Allah...). It is quite a beautiful practice, and > a beautiful tradition. Worth looking into, especially > for those with strong bhakti. > > pranams, > > Brianna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 , "Arjuna Taradasa" <bhagatirtha@m...> wrote: > 93 > Sufi in it's proper sense are mystics of Islam only. If we start using > this term as designating ANY mystic, it becomes equal to words > "kaula", "gnostic", "tsaddik" etc used in same sense. Then we can say > that there're muslim kaulas :-). Except that they possess none of the qualities of a Kaula. sa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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