Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 When I start to write this message to the board, I felt two things, will this message of mine will create a havoc in the group especially with the Non-saktas people and will I will be labelled as an anti- Vaishnava . But I have to write, that's the final decision of mine as I need to get some mean of justification for the religion and faith that I am following and practising. Frankly speak, my love towards the religion started when I start to absorb the Bhagavad-Gita into me. It shaped me and makes me to stand in my feet before many people and the credit should go to a Vaishnava who introduced me to Bhagavad-Gita. Starting from there, I start to learn many Vaishnava written works and feel comfortable with their thoughts and wisdom. Lately, someone ( Vaishnava) introduced to me to the concept of Demi-God and God and the correlation between them. I find very hard to accept the facts which has been produced before me and to add the oil to the fuel, the validly of these cannot be verify. I tried very hard to get answers and till now no answers were able feed my hungry mind. I am depressed and hurt by their continuous remarks as it doesn't creates a unity Indian Hindu people or Hindu society or people who follows the religion of east. Let me start the whole thing as it is… The definition of Demi-God and God has widely been described by Vaishavas and more precisely the ISKCON. I feel that I no need to explain about the meaning because, I am against the definition itself. When the concept of Demi-God comes in, that means you are accepting two system of God. God as supreme personality and demigod who is a half of supreme personality. I referred this to the Chief of the ISKCON in Malaysia and he somehow agreed to me to that sense, where first time readers or first time people who cross these words will marked them as two different things. He further noted that further studies will reveal the truth behind these terms. He gave me his lengthy talked about the concept of demigod and god, " In other words, they ( the demigod ) are not God but highly empowered beings who are subservient to God. (Consequently), worship of the demigod is inappropriate; worship is reserved for the Supreme alone and that is Krshna.". We have recognized and included all other Hindu Gods and Goddess as demigods and lower to the Krshna even though there are many literatures which talk about the interrelation of them." Infact his last sentence was correct, they modified many of the scriptures to suit them. On them is, the "Brahma Samhita" and the Vaishnava disagree with them because the Brahma Samhita has refuted Panchopasana ( Hinduism's traditional worship of Five Gods; Vishnu, Surya, Ganesh, Durga and Shiva). They said of Vishnu as found in Panchopasana does not please Vishnu; it is heterodox and highly improper … The worship of Vishnu as one the five deities makes His highest dignity, which is without any equal , similar to that of the other deities and that's is a greater spiritual offence. But the whole things were reversed when Vaishnava rooted themselves in the western whole. They brought a concept of "Your God and My God is the same". In the west they told "Christ (Krista) is another name of Krshna and there in no different between them" where else in their homeland they published books saying " Sakti, Shiva and other Gods and Goddess in the Indian as deities who are lower to Krshna and they have of the power of the Krshna." This is an injustice ! In shows that to gain the popularity in the western, they will twist whatever information that they have. I am sure ordinary people like me will me thinking like that . .. The concept Demi God creates uneasy for Non –Vaishnava. I never crossed any scriptures in other Hindu paths that degraded any other Gods. Scriptures said, everything is one and fools are the one who don't understand about it and doing worthless research on it. But commentaries correct it by saying something else. This is nothing but immature behaviour. ..Sakti may born out of Maya but She is the supreme for her own people. And she surpasses everything to her people. She formed her own civilization and stands equals and more to everything. To her people, she is the origin of the origins. She formed a system where people can live in it. . To say that she has lower power and worshiping her is useless is something injustice to Sakti herself and the people. Saktism wont go out and publish books which says other Gods are lower than me and worshipping them are unnecessary because all benedictions ultimately come from Her. Do any Sakta groups in the world treating like that ? The ISKON never mentioned this when they try to promote their organization in USA or other western countries. They said, they came they to make a Christian to be better Christian and should tell to the world that they also came to the earth to make Sakta a better Sakta , a Shaiva to be a better Shaiva and so on. The feelings of God is the same, I felt that. I am not sure about others but I felt the same. But now, people are saying, if you worship others that what I am worshipping , that you are doing nothing but sins. Further more, you will be in the cycle of born and death and you won't get mocha and so on. Until now, I am not happy with all these things even though I came from a Vaishnava tradition. I felt that the original scriptures have been modified by seers and leaders to suit to them. Commentaries have been added to make it worst. I need a justice to this because as far as I am concern, all paths are equal to each other because all of the deals with one thing " to feel the God". You may learn many scriptures, you may do many rituals and you may come across many commentaries but it all refers to one thing, a person is a Supreme. Who knows what is right and wrong.? Those days, married women buried live together with their husband and that seems to be all right for those people who lived that years but can we digest it today ? *I would like to stand clearly that I am not an Anti Vaishnava or anti any organization which includes ISCKON. I not going to involve myself if any further exchange of words if replies dragged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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