Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 93 The only reason for my indulging in this theme is to show that the view "hindus are good and compassionate, others are bad and cruel" is wrong. Nothing more. Problem of violence comes from human ego-mind. A. , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > whats this? intellectual nitpicking? LOL!! > Actually it is when religion and politics are mixed and when "headcount" is important that these things happen > > Arjuna Taradasa <bhagatirtha@m...> wrote: > 93 > > , "childofdevi" > <childofdevi> wrote: > > > Not one Nayanar but there were several Nayanars who were > responsible; but if you read the story carefully, ordinary jainas > were not tormented; it was only the vile and cruel jainas ( what > about jaina ahimsa LOL) who indulged in black magic and violence who > were killed. > > This is not different from medieval christians who killed "witches". > Same thing. > BTW there are some other "holy" deeds of those nayanars, read the > stories :-)... > > > Cmon, "several" is still in the single digit LOL; no way does it > > compare with the millions of Hindus slaughtered > > I'm doubtful about "millions"... Anyway the reason is simple: hindu > had no military power to do so. Otherwise definitely situation would > have been opposite. Hindus did kill many muslims, didn't they? > About killing of lingayatas U keep quiet... The fact BTW is that > Basavanna married a couple who loved each other but that marriage was > against caste rules. So "righteous" hindus killed them :-(. > > nor the systematic > > and covert conversion of Hindus(Catholic priests in Ceylon for > > instance made the Hindu students spit at their deities; no Hindu > > teacher would ever make a Christian spit at Christ) > > This is true. Hindus are so proud of themeselves that they do not > allow others to convert into hinduism :-(. One example i've given in > previous posting. Now, thanx to God, situation is slowly improving... > About those catholic priests U mentioned - that is thier own > stupidity, not prescription of the Church. > > > A 1000 years of Muslim rule and almost 300 years of British > Christian rule and still HInduism is alive today as it was 5000 years > ago > > Not at all "as it was ago". Plz be more objective :-). > > >(no doubt despicable practices are there, but they are on the > downswing)- > > No other religion disgraded their women to such a degree as hinduism > did. Such disgusting things as so-called "sati", miserable position > of widows and general suppresion of women were nowhere else present. > Of course these "practices" are not vedic (nor tantric), but they > were a part of brahmanical hinduism. > Only hinduism and buddhism went as far as sacrificing human beings. > Only hinduism is ok with idolatry and black magic. BTW black magic is > not a degradant tantric invention, it is vedic. Just take a look at > hymns of Atharvana-veda. > Hinduism was so cruel to IT'S OWN believers... :-( > > > no other religion has survived such an onslought. > > This is indeed wrong. The most long-suffering and still alive > religion is definitely judaism. Hindus never were tormented and > presecuted as jews were. Still they are alive and their religious and > mystical tradition is alive. > > The greatest of > > sages keep Sanatana Dharma alive, even though scripture has been > mis-interpreted; there is no question of Hinduism not surviving. > > The greatest sages are becoming less in number. Several really great > traditions are dead (like Krama, Trika, Kubjika, kashmiri Tripura), > several are dying (like Sahajiya-vaishnava, Kali-kaula)... :-( > After 11-13 centuries hinduism went down and till now it didn't > recover :-(. Perhaps it is God's will, 'coz nothing can happen > against His will. > Indeed a few sages are still alive. Several scholars are still alive. > Some true upasakas are there. But a question of survival is there. > One more danger to hinduism is a present tendency of making it more > and more as "new-age". Versions of vedanta, yoga and tantra preached > by different "svamis" to the westerners and to their own indians have > almost nothing to do with original great doctrines of those names :- > (... > > A. > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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