Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Namaste Eric, Thank You for sharing your thoughts and reflections on Freedom. I think that much of what you say below is right on the mark. There is Freedom within a format. As I heard someone say before 10% of Life is what happens to me 90% is how I react to it. Too often it seems that people want to think of Freedom in chlidish and unrealistic ways. ie "I can do whatever I want whenever I want" without any consequences of any sort & without contemplating the impact of one's decisions on others. This particularly silly idea of Freedom seems to be quite popular in American Culture. So much of what constitutes freedom is learning to shift ones sense of self and identity "upwards" and "away from" narrow and false self conception and limitations until gradually one comes to know oneself as the whole, the Divine Radiance that underlies & permeates all things (Sri Devi). That is a long way off for most of us. Until then we all do the best we can with what we have and enjoy everything along the way ; ) Warm Regards ~Sunelectric , "Eric Otto" <eottoe2001> wrote: > Oh, so there is a term for a person like me.,,, > > There has a been a discussion between me and some of my friends about the meaning of freedom. There are a lot of forces and > things out of ones control or ability to respond to. (Some people hate when I say that because they believe that they are the sole > creators of their reality.) My experince is that there seem to be things I can control and there are things that are not within my > "control" including my reactions sometimes. What is interesting to me more and more is that for example I have reactions but I'm not > reactions. I have a life with all kinds of systems and controls to it but all of those are not who I am. So while things are occuring > around me that "force" me to do things, I realize that I am still me and "me" is not the events. > > This is a reasonalble way to be because when the real choices come - not the artificial choices given to us by the culture - one can > make authentic decisions and real actions. > > There is a balancing act, however, with it. one has to be in the world but not of it. There is a problem, however, with being too aloof > and too indifferent to the people and the events around you. I don't think that is real living. > > This way of being or seeing is not something that many people would consciously go after, you are correct. It make for a life that is > porbably more complicated and leaves people around you confused about decisions that one makes that seem to make no sense > at all except from the point of view that one is trying to be conscious, awake and aware. It is also a problem when people who like to > think in conventional ways about life, the universe and everything might have to look at something differently. At times, it is down right > painful at times. > > Yes, I like that term. > > Thank you for sharing. > > Eric > > > > , "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > > Eric asked : "Would you be kind enough to explain to me what do you > > mean by "Kuala"? > > > > Had this interesting conversation with one of the member, and this is > > what he have to say : > > > > "I think that is why kaulism is called heroic. It is much more > > difficult to stay spiritually focus with all the noice and business > > of life. I don't think everyone would want to be a kaula. It seems > > like people who are drawn to kaula and vamacharya are unusual people > > in some way or other. They often seem to be people who are outsiders > > in one way or another. A little more insightful and free thinking > > than average people think. Most people want the safety of the herd > > But to be a good kaula. You have to outwardly *appear* as though you > > are following. But inwardly and secretly remain free and do what you > > want without drawing attention to yourself > > > > " like a double agent eh!" > > > > "Yes Devi's Spy in Samsara" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Beloveds, Freedom, moksha, is found only within the human will. Love Swami --- sunelectric101 <ouranian wrote: > Namaste Eric, > > Thank You for sharing your thoughts and reflections > on Freedom. > I think that much of what you say below is right on > the mark. There > is Freedom within a format. As I heard someone say > before 10% of Life > is what happens to me 90% is how I react to it. > > Too often it seems that people want to think of > Freedom in chlidish > and unrealistic ways. ie "I can do whatever I want > whenever I want" > without any consequences of any sort & without > contemplating the > impact of one's decisions on others. This > particularly silly idea of > Freedom seems to be quite popular in American > Culture. > > So much of what constitutes freedom is learning to > shift ones sense > of self and identity "upwards" and "away from" > narrow and false self > conception and limitations until gradually one comes > to know oneself > as the whole, the Divine Radiance that underlies & > permeates all > things (Sri Devi). That is a long way off for most > of us. Until then > we all do the best we can with what we have and > enjoy everything > along the way ; ) > > Warm Regards > > ~Sunelectric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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