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Having paid homage to Sarvakama, the last of the ten Siddhis, or

Powers gained by sadhana, we now move inward to the second layer of

the wall enclosing the Sri Chakra.

 

As noted at the beginning of this series, the first of the nine

enclosures of Sri Chakra consists of a protective wall, three layers

thick. Each of the three layers is guarded by its own set of devis or

yoginis, embodying progressively subtle aspects of Devi's infinite

totality. This enclosure of three layers is called Trailokyamohana

chakra and its devis are called Prakata Yoginis, or the manifest

Yoginis – those who bewitch (or captivate, or delude) the three worlds.

 

The term "three worlds," on the metaphysical level, refers to the

gross, subtle, and transcendent worlds – the gross (physical,

material, elemental), objective world of duality, within which our

physical bodies move; the subtle world of the various goddesses and

gods, which we access at various levels during the course of our

sadhana over many lives; and the transcendent world in which all of

these worlds and separations are resolved into the One, Indivisible

Brahman, conceived as Lalita Tripurasundari. On the psychological

level, "three worlds" denotes the states of waking, dreaming, and

sleeping.

 

The term "prakata" means that which is expressed or revealed. So the

prakatayogini – the devis of the first enclosure of Sri Chakra – are

the outward, visible manifestations of Devi in the three worlds; or as

Guruji notes, "the yoginis who express Themselves openly, without

inhibitions."

 

Think of Sri Chakra for a moment as a fortress or a walled city.

Standing outside, one sees only the blank, towering, protective walls

– just as we, before undertaking sadhana, see only the visible

surfaces of the world around us. Inside that wall is another wall, and

inside that one, a third. Then there are two circles of lotuses, which

must then be circumambulated – that is like walking inward, toward the

city center. And only then do we enter the interlocking triangles of

the Sri Yantra proper – that is the castle, or citadel, where the

Queen holds court. The center of Sri Chakra is the sanctum sanctorum,

the holy of holies; the Queen's inner chamber, where we finally arrive

at the feet of Lalita Herself.

 

SriChakra is a geometrical representation of the Cosmos – the Three

Worlds, the body of Devi. The Khadgamala is, in essence, a map guiding

us through the labyrinthine chambers of the Sri Chakra. The Sri Chakra

can be visualized in two dimensions, in which case it is called Sri

Yantra. It can be visualized in three dimensions, in which case it is

called Sri Meru. And it can be visualized in your own body.

 

As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are

made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers, both

manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri Chakra

is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum, then, verily

Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

 

Aum Maatangyai Namahe

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As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are

made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers, both

manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri Chakra

is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum, then, verily

Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

 

 

------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using the actual

tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the human body is love of

the very temple of the divine. This simple knowledge could allay a lot of fear

and anger if people could just get over their fear of vulnerability. Often those

who are the most warring are also those most unable to just let go of their

hangups, probably due to some sort of negative reinforcement. All sentient

beings from single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If humans

realized this and made peace with it then those who were power hungry would

recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be able to prevent their

warring nature from occuring. People should have sex school. I wonder how many

dead would still be alive if someone had some real loving. People think the

prurient interest is deviant, however love of form is appreciation of it. War

and the urge to destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In either case

self inflation is the cause of evil, while self appreciation is the doorway to

the divine.

 

 

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Couple of comments:

 

All traditions hold that the human body is the best Srichakra. There are

traditions which say that Srichakra is located in the dvadasanta i.e

sahasrara(in the brain-both male and female). In another set of dhyanas, these

same traditions give the status of svadishtana to genitals(the differenec in

technique based on level).

 

If everybody is a SriChakra, shouldnt we all be liberated by now? Statements

where adhikara-bheda isnt stressed can bring only confusion and

misunderstanding, as we have seen in the past in this very list. Proper thought

(or a note) as to for whom the statement applies to, will remove such

confusions. For people without prior sadhana these will be empty statements

which on hearing doesnt make them feel any different. On the other hand, they

might work the other way, i.e provide rationalisation for durachara

(bad/misconduct).

 

Ex statements like above: 1)All is Brahman and everyone is Brahman. 2)Brahman

cant be realised by meditation or prayer.

 

Then why do sadhana or care about Brahman?

 

Ex: There was a certain member who asked the list whether his act of wearing a

mala of eka-mukhi rudrakshas and then going to a bar and drinking(with those

rudrakshas on) makes him a vira sadhaka.(an example of how statments like above

will work the other way)

 

Comments and input welcome,

 

Rgds

 

, "Devi Bhakta"

<devi_bhakta> wrote:

> As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are

> made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers,

>both

> manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri

>Chakra

> is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

> sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum, then, verily

> Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

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Ex: There was a certain member who asked the list whether his act of wearing a

mala of eka-mukhi rudrakshas and then going to a bar and drinking(with those

rudrakshas on) makes him a vira sadhaka.(an example of how statments like above

will work the other way)

 

Comments and input welcome,

 

----That was me. Hehe. I gave up drinking when I took Buddhist refuge a while

ago. But the point still holds, until you cut through to who you are you just

can't know who you are. On one side of the coin you might be very decadent, and

on the other a veritable saint. Heads or tails. It's karma I guess. You can't

really judge another, Vira.

 

 

 

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But does not all idols/yantras require empowerment or prana pratishta? is not

sadhana that empowerment? I dunno..............

 

Satish Arigela <satisharigela wrote:Couple of comments:

 

All traditions hold that the human body is the best Srichakra. There are

traditions which say that Srichakra is located in the dvadasanta i.e

sahasrara(in the brain-both male and female). In another set of dhyanas, these

same traditions give the status of svadishtana to genitals(the differenec in

technique based on level).

 

If everybody is a SriChakra, shouldnt we all be liberated by now? Statements

where adhikara-bheda isnt stressed can bring only confusion and

misunderstanding, as we have seen in the past in this very list. Proper thought

(or a note) as to for whom the statement applies to, will remove such

confusions. For people without prior sadhana these will be empty statements

which on hearing doesnt make them feel any different. On the other hand, they

might work the other way, i.e provide rationalisation for durachara

(bad/misconduct).

 

Ex statements like above: 1)All is Brahman and everyone is Brahman. 2)Brahman

cant be realised by meditation or prayer.

 

Then why do sadhana or care about Brahman?

 

Ex: There was a certain member who asked the list whether his act of wearing a

mala of eka-mukhi rudrakshas and then going to a bar and drinking(with those

rudrakshas on) makes him a vira sadhaka.(an example of how statments like above

will work the other way)

 

Comments and input welcome,

 

Rgds

 

, "Devi Bhakta"

<devi_bhakta> wrote:

> As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are

> made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers,

>both

> manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri

>Chakra

> is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

> sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum, then, verily

> Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

 

 

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, sankara menon <kochu1tz>

wrote:

> But does not all idols/yantras require empowerment or prana

>pratishta? is not sadhana that empowerment?

 

I tend to think so.

 

Regards

 

 

I dunno..............

>

> Satish Arigela <satisharigela> wrote:Couple of comments:

>

> All traditions hold that the human body is the best Srichakra.

There are traditions which say that Srichakra is located in the

dvadasanta i.e sahasrara(in the brain-both male and female). In

another set of dhyanas, these same traditions give the status of

svadishtana to genitals(the differenec in technique based on level).

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I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested changing the

undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because you just

don't feel like killing people when you're in silk boxer shorts.

 

namaste,

 

pr

 

, "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

<detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

>

>

> As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are

> made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers,

both

> manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri Chakra

> is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

> sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum, then, verily

> Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

>

>

> ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using the

actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the human

body is love of the very temple of the divine. This simple knowledge

could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get over

their fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most warring are

also those most unable to just let go of their hangups, probably due

to some sort of negative reinforcement. All sentient beings from

single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If humans

realized this and made peace with it then those who were power hungry

would recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be able to

prevent their warring nature from occuring. People should have sex

school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if someone had

some real loving. People think the prurient interest is deviant,

however love of form is appreciation of it. War and the urge to

destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In either case self

inflation is the cause of evil, while self appreciation is the

doorway to the divine.

>

>

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That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

 

I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in the

body-mind that is causing the failure of communication between

sexuality and love. For example, continual focus on the beauty of

youth, the "youth industry," when so much of life and spiritual

understanding begins after age 40 (certain American presidents

excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing porn industry,

flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking industry, flourishing

weapons manufacturing industry, flourishing war industry,

flourishing political machine industry, etc.

 

Yet we all know that the world has the resources to feed, clothe

and house all its peoples. We have the resources to develop

"clean" energy, and to afford everyone a meaningful place in

societies worldwide. But this is not what we do with the majority

of our energy and time on the planet. Instead, we stay

compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

 

Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of

religion which tends to be anti-sex and promotes only partial

humanity for men and women (e.g. the institution of marriage

and its underlying imbalances), causing and further reinforcing

destructive tendencies and perpetuating the misalignment which

does not allow the connection between all the parts of us within

our bodies and minds.

 

Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm bumming

myself out! Is there tantric humor??

 

Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it is,

in case I didn't post it then:

 

A husband came into his home after work all out of breath. He

said to his wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from work

behind the bus instead of getting on it!" She said: "That wasn't

very smart! You could have run home behind a taxi and saved

$20!"

 

Mary Ann

 

, "prainbow61"

<paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested

changing the

> undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because you

just

> don't feel like killing people when you're in silk boxer shorts.

>

> namaste,

>

> pr

>

> ,

"Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body

are

> > made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all

powers,

> both

> > manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri

Chakra

> > is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

> > sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum,

then, verily

> > Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> >

> >

> > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using

the

> actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the

human

> body is love of the very temple of the divine. This simple

knowledge

> could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get over

> their fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most warring

are

> also those most unable to just let go of their hangups,

probably due

> to some sort of negative reinforcement. All sentient beings

from

> single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If

humans

> realized this and made peace with it then those who were

power hungry

> would recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be

able to

> prevent their warring nature from occuring. People should have

sex

> school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if

someone had

> some real loving. People think the prurient interest is deviant,

> however love of form is appreciation of it. War and the urge to

> destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In either case self

> inflation is the cause of evil, while self appreciation is the

> doorway to the divine.

> >

> >

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The best "Tantric joke" that I have been seeing has been the dredging for

information by a member posting the same message on all the Hindu religious

groups.

Later on we can expect a "Schowlerly" book on Tantra pieceing together what a

lot of people said as the author's research or we can find him/her setting up

himself/herself as a "guru".

 

Mary Ann <maryann wrote:

That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

 

I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in the

body-mind that is causing the failure of communication between

sexuality and love. For example, continual focus on the beauty of

youth, the "youth industry," when so much of life and spiritual

understanding begins after age 40 (certain American presidents

excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing porn industry,

flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking industry, flourishing

weapons manufacturing industry, flourishing war industry,

flourishing political machine industry, etc.

 

Yet we all know that the world has the resources to feed, clothe

and house all its peoples. We have the resources to develop

"clean" energy, and to afford everyone a meaningful place in

societies worldwide. But this is not what we do with the majority

of our energy and time on the planet. Instead, we stay

compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

 

Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of

religion which tends to be anti-sex and promotes only partial

humanity for men and women (e.g. the institution of marriage

and its underlying imbalances), causing and further reinforcing

destructive tendencies and perpetuating the misalignment which

does not allow the connection between all the parts of us within

our bodies and minds.

 

Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm bumming

myself out! Is there tantric humor??

 

Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it is,

in case I didn't post it then:

 

A husband came into his home after work all out of breath. He

said to his wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from work

behind the bus instead of getting on it!" She said: "That wasn't

very smart! You could have run home behind a taxi and saved

$20!"

 

Mary Ann

 

, "prainbow61"

<paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested

changing the

> undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because you

just

> don't feel like killing people when you're in silk boxer shorts.

>

> namaste,

>

> pr

>

> ,

"Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body

are

> > made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all

powers,

> both

> > manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri

Chakra

> > is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

> > sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum,

then, verily

> > Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> >

> >

> > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using

the

> actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the

human

> body is love of the very temple of the divine. This simple

knowledge

> could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get over

> their fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most warring

are

> also those most unable to just let go of their hangups,

probably due

> to some sort of negative reinforcement. All sentient beings

from

> single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If

humans

> realized this and made peace with it then those who were

power hungry

> would recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be

able to

> prevent their warring nature from occuring. People should have

sex

> school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if

someone had

> some real loving. People think the prurient interest is deviant,

> however love of form is appreciation of it. War and the urge to

> destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In either case self

> inflation is the cause of evil, while self appreciation is the

> doorway to the divine.

> >

> >

 

 

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Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut

buster," something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the

skull and bones store the other day...." Truly, is there anything

mentioned about laughter in Hindu spiritual teachings?

 

BTW Amma will be visiting Los Angeles later this month,

6/22-26. Amma's Los Angeles area Sadhana's music group will

be performing many chants during the program when Amma is

here - including "Bolo Bolo" - thanks to a Shakti Sadhana

member who found the lyrics for me online (msbauju). I

especially like "Bolo Bolo" because the words say that Shiva

plays a drum, and music, like laughter, heals.

 

Mary Ann

 

, sankara menon

<kochu1tz> wrote:

>

> The best "Tantric joke" that I have been seeing has been the

dredging for information by a member posting the same

message on all the Hindu religious groups.

> Later on we can expect a "Schowlerly" book on Tantra pieceing

together what a lot of people said as the author's research or we

can find him/her setting up himself/herself as a "guru".

>

> Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

>

> I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in

the

> body-mind that is causing the failure of communication

between

> sexuality and love. For example, continual focus on the beauty

of

> youth, the "youth industry," when so much of life and spiritual

> understanding begins after age 40 (certain American

presidents

> excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing porn

industry,

> flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking industry, flourishing

> weapons manufacturing industry, flourishing war industry,

> flourishing political machine industry, etc.

>

> Yet we all know that the world has the resources to feed, clothe

> and house all its peoples. We have the resources to develop

> "clean" energy, and to afford everyone a meaningful place in

> societies worldwide. But this is not what we do with the

majority

> of our energy and time on the planet. Instead, we stay

> compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

>

> Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of

> religion which tends to be anti-sex and promotes only partial

> humanity for men and women (e.g. the institution of marriage

> and its underlying imbalances), causing and further reinforcing

> destructive tendencies and perpetuating the misalignment

which

> does not allow the connection between all the parts of us

within

> our bodies and minds.

>

> Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm

bumming

> myself out! Is there tantric humor??

>

> Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it

is,

> in case I didn't post it then:

>

> A husband came into his home after work all out of breath. He

> said to his wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from work

> behind the bus instead of getting on it!" She said: "That wasn't

> very smart! You could have run home behind a taxi and saved

> $20!"

>

> Mary Ann

>

> , "prainbow61"

> <paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> > I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested

> changing the

> > undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because you

> just

> > don't feel like killing people when you're in silk boxer shorts.

> >

> > namaste,

> >

> > pr

> >

> > ,

> "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> > <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your

body

> are

> > > made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all

> powers,

> > both

> > > manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri

> Chakra

> > > is located in all the female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the

> > > sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum sanctorum,

> then, verily

> > > Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> > >

> > >

> > > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using

> the

> > actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the

> human

> > body is love of the very temple of the divine. This simple

> knowledge

> > could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get over

> > their fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most

warring

> are

> > also those most unable to just let go of their hangups,

> probably due

> > to some sort of negative reinforcement. All sentient beings

> from

> > single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If

> humans

> > realized this and made peace with it then those who were

> power hungry

> > would recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be

> able to

> > prevent their warring nature from occuring. People should

have

> sex

> > school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if

> someone had

> > some real loving. People think the prurient interest is deviant,

> > however love of form is appreciation of it. War and the urge

to

> > destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In either case self

> > inflation is the cause of evil, while self appreciation is the

> > doorway to the divine.

> > >

> > >

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I am too dry a person; not really humorous :'( what can I do ? i

tried.......................

 

Mary Ann <maryann wrote:

Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut buster,"

something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the skull and bones store the

other day...." Truly, is there anything mentioned about laughter in Hindu

spiritual teachings?

 

BTW Amma will be visiting Los Angeles later this month,

6/22-26. Amma's Los Angeles area Sadhana's music group will be performing many

chants during the program when Amma is here - including "Bolo Bolo" - thanks to

a Shakti Sadhana member who found the lyrics for me online (msbauju). I

especially like "Bolo Bolo" because the words say that Shiva plays a drum, and

music, like laughter, heals.

 

Mary Ann

 

, sankara menon

<kochu1tz> wrote:

>

> The best "Tantric joke" that I have been seeing has been the dredging for

information by a member posting the same message on all the Hindu religious

groups.

 

Later on we can expect a "Schowlerly" book on Tantra pieceing together what a

lot of people said as the author's research or we can find him/her setting up

himself/herself as a "guru".

>

> Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

>

> I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in the body-mind

that is causing the failure of communication between sexuality and love. For

example, continual focus on the beauty of youth, the "youth industry," when so

much of life and spiritual understanding begins after age 40 (certain American

presidents excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing porn industry,

flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking industry, flourishing weapons

manufacturing industry, flourishing war industry, flourishing political machine

industry, etc. Yet we all know that the world has the resources to feed, clothe

and house all its peoples. We have the resources to develop "clean" energy, and

to afford everyone a meaningful place in societies worldwide. But this is not

what we do with the majority of our energy and time on the planet. Instead, we

stay compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

>

> Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of religion which tends

to be anti-sex and promotes only partial humanity for men and women (e.g. the

institution of marriage and its underlying imbalances), causing and further

reinforcing destructive tendencies and perpetuating the misalignment which does

not allow the connection between all the parts of us within our bodies and

minds.

>

> Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm bumming myself out! Is there

tantric humor??

>

> Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it is, in case I

didn't post it then:

>

> A husband came into his home after work all out of breath. He said to his

wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from work behind the bus instead of

getting on it!" She said: "That wasn't very smart! You could have run home

behind a taxi and saved $20!"

>

> Mary Ann

>

> , "prainbow61"

> <paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> > I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested changing the

undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because you just don't feel like

killing people when you're in silk boxer shorts.

> >

> > namaste,

> >

> > pr

> >

> > ,

> "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> > <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are made

by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers, both manifest and

latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri Chakra is located in all the

female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the sadhak or sadhika who arrives at

the santum sanctorum, then, verily Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> > >

> > >

> > > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using the actual

tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the human body is love of

the very temple of the divine. This simple knowledge

> > could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get over their fear

of vulnerability. Often those who are the most warring are also those most

unable to just let go of their hangups, probably due to some sort of negative

reinforcement. All sentient beings from

> > single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If humans

realized this and made peace with it then those who were power hungry would

recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be able to prevent their

warring nature from occuring. People should

have sex school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if someone had some

real loving. People think the prurient interest is deviant, however love of form

is appreciation of it. War and the urge to destroy beauty is the true prurient

interest. In either case self inflation is the cause of evil, while self

appreciation is the doorway to the divine.

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When speaking of religious matters, one man's humorous comment is another

man's sacreligious blasphemy. I have already been accused of being rude,

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offlist.

 

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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) sankara menon

<kochu1tz writes:

> I am too dry a person; not really humorous :'( what can I do ? i

> tried.......................

>

> Mary Ann <maryann wrote:

> Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut

> buster," something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the

> skull and bones store the other day...." Truly, is there anything

> mentioned about laughter in Hindu spiritual teachings?

and saved $20!"

 

 

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Oh well here goes. I may have said this one before.

 

Three yogis are meditating in a cave. A tiger roars outside. Six months later

one yogi says, "That lion was loud!" Another six months later the second yogi

says, "That was a tiger!" Still another six months goes by and the third yogi

says, "If you two don't stop arguing I'm leaving!"

-

sankara menon

Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:16 AM

Re: Re: Orientation and Review: The Khadgamala Devis

Series

 

 

I am too dry a person; not really humorous :'( what can I do ? i

tried.......................

 

Mary Ann <maryann wrote:

Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut buster,"

something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the skull and bones store the

other day...." Truly, is there anything mentioned about laughter in Hindu

spiritual teachings?

 

BTW Amma will be visiting Los Angeles later this month,

6/22-26. Amma's Los Angeles area Sadhana's music group will be performing many

chants during the program when Amma is here - including "Bolo Bolo" - thanks to

a Shakti Sadhana member who found the lyrics for me online (msbauju). I

especially like "Bolo Bolo" because the words say that Shiva plays a drum, and

music, like laughter, heals.

 

Mary Ann

 

, sankara menon

<kochu1tz> wrote:

>

> The best "Tantric joke" that I have been seeing has been the dredging for

information by a member posting the same message on all the Hindu religious

groups.

 

Later on we can expect a "Schowlerly" book on Tantra pieceing together what a

lot of people said as the author's research or we can find him/her setting up

himself/herself as a "guru".

>

> Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

>

> I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in the body-mind

that is causing the failure of communication between sexuality and love. For

example, continual focus on the beauty of youth, the "youth industry," when so

much of life and spiritual understanding begins after age 40 (certain American

presidents excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing porn industry,

flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking industry, flourishing weapons

manufacturing industry, flourishing war industry, flourishing political machine

industry, etc. Yet we all know that the world has the resources to feed, clothe

and house all its peoples. We have the resources to develop "clean" energy, and

to afford everyone a meaningful place in societies worldwide. But this is not

what we do with the majority of our energy and time on the planet. Instead, we

stay compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

>

> Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of religion which tends

to be anti-sex and promotes only partial humanity for men and women (e.g. the

institution of marriage and its underlying imbalances), causing and further

reinforcing destructive tendencies and perpetuating the misalignment which does

not allow the connection between all the parts of us within our bodies and

minds.

>

> Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm bumming myself out! Is

there tantric humor??

>

> Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it is, in case I

didn't post it then:

>

> A husband came into his home after work all out of breath. He said to his

wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from work behind the bus instead of

getting on it!" She said: "That wasn't very smart! You could have run home

behind a taxi and saved $20!"

>

> Mary Ann

>

> , "prainbow61"

> <paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> > I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested changing the

undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because you just don't feel like

killing people when you're in silk boxer shorts.

> >

> > namaste,

> >

> > pr

> >

> > ,

> "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> > <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your body are made

by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all powers, both manifest and

latent. They are the real Sakti Peethas. ... Sri Chakra is located in all the

female genitals at the clitoris." Is not the sadhak or sadhika who arrives at

the santum sanctorum, then, verily Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> > >

> > >

> > > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of using the

actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of the human body is

love of the very temple of the divine. This simple knowledge

> > could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get over their

fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most warring are also those most

unable to just let go of their hangups, probably due to some sort of negative

reinforcement. All sentient beings from

> > single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If humans

realized this and made peace with it then those who were power hungry would

recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be able to prevent their

warring nature from occuring. People should

have sex school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if someone had

some real loving. People think the prurient interest is deviant, however love of

form is appreciation of it. War and the urge to destroy beauty is the true

prurient interest. In either case self inflation is the cause of evil, while

self appreciation is the doorway to the divine.

> > >

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Sure. Why not?

 

But then all are entitled to their say.

 

But lets no hurt others’ sentiments.

 

kalipadma wrote:

 

 

When speaking of religious matters, one man's humorous comment is another man's

sacreligious blasphemy. I have already been accused of being rude, crude, lewd,

and irreligious on this list. Perhaps I'll send you a joke offlist.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) sankara menon

<kochu1tz writes:

> I am too dry a person; not really humorous :'( what can I do ? i

> tried.......................

>

> Mary Ann <maryann wrote:

> Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut buster,"

something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the skull and bones store the

other day...." Truly, is there anything mentioned about laughter in Hindu

spiritual teachings? and saved $20!"

 

 

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Dear Kochu:

 

Thank you - I do appreciate your post - on this and many topics :)

 

, sankara menon

<kochu1tz> wrote:

> I am too dry a person; not really humorous :'( what can I do ? i

tried.......................

>

> Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut

buster," something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the

skull and bones store the other day...." Truly, is there anything

mentioned about laughter in Hindu spiritual teachings?

>

> BTW Amma will be visiting Los Angeles later this month,

> 6/22-26. Amma's Los Angeles area Sadhana's music group

will be performing many chants during the program when Amma

is here - including "Bolo Bolo" - thanks to a Shakti Sadhana

member who found the lyrics for me online (msbauju). I

especially like "Bolo Bolo" because the words say that Shiva

plays a drum, and music, like laughter, heals.

>

> Mary Ann

>

> , sankara menon

> <kochu1tz> wrote:

> >

> > The best "Tantric joke" that I have been seeing has been the

dredging for information by a member posting the same

message on all the Hindu religious groups.

>

> Later on we can expect a "Schowlerly" book on Tantra pieceing

together what a lot of people said as the author's research or we

can find him/her setting up himself/herself as a "guru".

> >

> > Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> > That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

> >

> > I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in

the body-mind that is causing the failure of communication

between sexuality and love. For example, continual focus on the

beauty of youth, the "youth industry," when so much of life and

spiritual understanding begins after age 40 (certain American

presidents excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing

porn industry, flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking

industry, flourishing weapons manufacturing industry, flourishing

war industry, flourishing political machine industry, etc. Yet we all

know that the world has the resources to feed, clothe and house

all its peoples. We have the resources to develop "clean" energy,

and to afford everyone a meaningful place in societies

worldwide. But this is not what we do with the majority of our

energy and time on the planet. Instead, we stay

compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

> >

> > Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of

religion which tends to be anti-sex and promotes only partial

humanity for men and women (e.g. the institution of marriage

and its underlying imbalances), causing and further reinforcing

destructive tendencies and perpetuating the misalignment which

does not allow the connection between all the parts of us within

our bodies and minds.

> >

> > Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm

bumming myself out! Is there tantric humor??

> >

> > Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it

is, in case I didn't post it then:

> >

> > A husband came into his home after work all out of breath.

He said to his wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from

work behind the bus instead of getting on it!" She said: "That

wasn't very smart! You could have run home behind a taxi and

saved $20!"

> >

> > Mary Ann

> >

> > , "prainbow61"

> > <paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> > > I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested

changing the undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts,

because you just don't feel like killing people when you're in silk

boxer shorts.

> > >

> > > namaste,

> > >

> > > pr

> > >

> > > ,

> > "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> > > <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your

body are made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of

all powers, both manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti

Peethas. ... Sri Chakra is located in all the female genitals at the

clitoris." Is not the sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum

sanctorum, then, verily Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of

using the actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love

of the human body is love of the very temple of the divine. This

simple knowledge

> > > could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get

over their fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most

warring are also those most unable to just let go of their

hangups, probably due to some sort of negative reinforcement.

All sentient beings from

> > > single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If

humans realized this and made peace with it then those who

were power hungry would recognize their displaced sexual

nature and maybe be able to prevent their warring nature from

occuring. People should

> have sex school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if

someone had some real loving. People think the prurient

interest is deviant, however love of form is appreciation of it. War

and the urge to destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In

either case self inflation is the cause of evil, while self

appreciation is the doorway to the divine.

> > > >

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Don't be fooled for a minute, Mary Ann. Kochu has one of the finest

senses of humor I've ever had the pleasure of encountering. He'd hate

for anyone to know that though, so don't tell. ;-)

 

, sankara menon <kochu1tz>

wrote:

> I am too dry a person; not really humorous :'( what can I do ? i

tried.......................

>

> Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> Hmm, yes, that's unfortunate. However, I was hoping for a "gut

buster," something along the lines of "A sadhak walked into the skull

and bones store the other day...." Truly, is there anything

mentioned about laughter in Hindu spiritual teachings?

>

> BTW Amma will be visiting Los Angeles later this month,

> 6/22-26. Amma's Los Angeles area Sadhana's music group will be

performing many chants during the program when Amma is here -

including "Bolo Bolo" - thanks to a Shakti Sadhana member who found

the lyrics for me online (msbauju). I especially like "Bolo Bolo"

because the words say that Shiva plays a drum, and music, like

laughter, heals.

>

> Mary Ann

>

> , sankara menon

> <kochu1tz> wrote:

> >

> > The best "Tantric joke" that I have been seeing has been the

dredging for information by a member posting the same message on all

the Hindu religious groups.

>

> Later on we can expect a "Schowlerly" book on Tantra pieceing

together what a lot of people said as the author's research or we can

find him/her setting up himself/herself as a "guru".

> >

> > Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

> > That is funny, and astute. What a great idea!

> >

> > I was thinking this past week that there is a misalignment in the

body-mind that is causing the failure of communication between

sexuality and love. For example, continual focus on the beauty of

youth, the "youth industry," when so much of life and spiritual

understanding begins after age 40 (certain American presidents

excepted, of course). Then there is the flourishing porn industry,

flourishing law enforcement / law-breaking industry, flourishing

weapons manufacturing industry, flourishing war industry, flourishing

political machine industry, etc. Yet we all know that the world has

the resources to feed, clothe and house all its peoples. We have the

resources to develop "clean" energy, and to afford everyone a

meaningful place in societies worldwide. But this is not what we do

with the majority of our energy and time on the planet. Instead, we

stay compartmentalized in these various deadening industries.

> >

> > Compassion and love are then relegated to the domain of religion

which tends to be anti-sex and promotes only partial humanity for men

and women (e.g. the institution of marriage and its underlying

imbalances), causing and further reinforcing destructive tendencies

and perpetuating the misalignment which does not allow the connection

between all the parts of us within our bodies and minds.

> >

> > Someone please, post some jokes or something! I'm bumming myself

out! Is there tantric humor??

> >

> > Amma told a funny joke when she was in LA last year. Here it is,

in case I didn't post it then:

> >

> > A husband came into his home after work all out of breath. He

said to his wife: "I just saved $2.00 by running home from work

behind the bus instead of getting on it!" She said: "That wasn't

very smart! You could have run home behind a taxi and saved $20!"

> >

> > Mary Ann

> >

> > , "prainbow61"

> > <paulie-rainbow@u...> wrote:

> > > I think that Robin Williams was the comic who suggested

changing the undergarments of soldiers to silk boxer shorts, because

you just don't feel like killing people when you're in silk boxer

shorts.

> > >

> > > namaste,

> > >

> > > pr

> > >

> > > ,

> > "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

> > > <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As Guruji notes, "Your body is a temple. All parts of your

body are made by Goddess and are divine. They are the seats of all

powers, both manifest and latent. They are the real Sakti

Peethas. ... Sri Chakra is located in all the female genitals at the

clitoris." Is not the sadhak or sadhika who arrives at the santum

sanctorum, then, verily Shiva Him- (or Her-) self?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------I love the fact that Sri Amritananda is unafraid of

using the actual tantric language and facts of the practice. Love of

the human body is love of the very temple of the divine. This simple

knowledge

> > > could allay a lot of fear and anger if people could just get

over their fear of vulnerability. Often those who are the most

warring are also those most unable to just let go of their hangups,

probably due to some sort of negative reinforcement. All sentient

beings from

> > > single celled to universes live to engage in sexual union. If

humans realized this and made peace with it then those who were power

hungry would recognize their displaced sexual nature and maybe be

able to prevent their warring nature from occuring. People should

> have sex school. I wonder how many dead would still be alive if

someone had some real loving. People think the prurient interest is

deviant, however love of form is appreciation of it. War and the

urge to destroy beauty is the true prurient interest. In either case

self inflation is the cause of evil, while self appreciation is the

doorway to the divine.

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> >

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