Kali Ma likes sacrifies (WAS garlic and onion)

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In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:37:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ammasmon writes:

Hence, do not take the popularly known rituals to be Kali Ma's

approval of our actions; she uses her genius even in these

situations to somehow draw out the best in us.

 

Jai Ma!

Perhaps you are correct in your assertion on a level, but for some reason at

every Kali Ma temple I ever went to they tend to behead a lot of goats

especially on tuesdays and saturdays!

 

At Dakshinishwar temple, Ramakrishnas home, they have stopped the practice

but the old harikhat is still visible and it probably was continued for a while

after his death as well, perhaps until it's popularity grew to a level were

some patrons and tourists evinced disdain for the practice.

 

I don't think she is trying to "rectify" this particular ancient style of

worship which is called Boli. It is still very widespread and common, as well as

obviously having been around since ancient times. Various Bengalis have even

told me that sacrificing humans was not unheard of and there is a Tantrik

ritual, supposedly no longer practiced, which required five men to be beheaded!

 

I personally have no trouble accepting this. I don't try to candy-coat the

image of Ma Kali and actually tend toward the fiercer forms when it comes to

Puja. I'm not cutting off heads myself ;-) but I don't shy away from the animal

sacrifice part.

 

I went to Bengal as a vegetarian To watch the sacrifices repulsed me at

first, but I learned to accept everything as a part of Ma.

 

Shakti is beyond our ideas of good and evil, I believe that to realize her

you have to accept nature in all its postive and negative forms. You can find

metaphors where they may guide you, but there is always reality defying our

simple rationalizations.

 

 

 

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, swastik108@a... wrote:

>Plus, it is no secret that Kali Ma likes blood sacrifice.

 

This is not correct, I believe.

 

Kali Ma does not like blood sacrifices, atleast the way we

understand it.

 

Kali Ma likes 'sacrifices', no qualifiers needed before that.... and

She is willing to draw 'blood' out of us to to help us make

those 'sacrificies' (aka remove our ego to help us renounce the

world).

 

Try and understand Kali Ma's viewpoint (so magnificient is this

Goddess).... If, in the lifecycle of a devotee's practices, he

offers her blood sacrifices like goat etc, She overlooks the

horrendous act but tries to see the level of sincerity, love and

devotion with which it is offered. If She detects that, then that is

enough to make her happy because she thinks "atleast my child is

doing this act out of love for me. I will use future opportunities

to rectify his style of worship and re-calibrate his humanity; right

now he needs my love for his various needs and let me suffice that".

But if she detects no sincerity in that worship, then She gives him

the cold shoulder of his impersonal karma, or worse still, if she is

offended, she might even push all his buttons to a terrifying level,

with the ultimate objective of 'making the human a divine'.

 

Hence, do not take the popularly known rituals to be Kali Ma's

approval of our actions; she uses her genius even in these

situations to somehow draw out the best in us.

 

Jai Ma!

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It is true that there is no connection whatsoever between the twin concepts of

good and evil and its other dualities for a kaula.

 

 

swastik108 wrote:

In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:37:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ammasmon writes:

Hence, do not take the popularly known rituals to be Kali Ma's approval of our

actions; she uses her genius even in these situations to somehow draw out the

best in us.

 

Jai Ma!

Perhaps you are correct in your assertion on a level, but for some reason at

every Kali Ma temple I ever went to they tend to behead a lot of goats

especially on tuesdays and saturdays!

 

At Dakshinishwar temple, Ramakrishnas home, they have stopped the practice but

the old harikhat is still visible and it probably was continued for a while

after his death as well, perhaps until it's popularity grew to a level were some

patrons and tourists evinced disdain for the practice.

 

I don't think she is trying to "rectify" this particular ancient style of

worship which is called Boli. It is still very widespread and common, as well as

obviously having been around since ancient times. Various Bengalis have even

told me that sacrificing humans was not unheard of and there is a Tantrik

ritual, supposedly no longer practiced, which required five men to be beheaded!

 

I personally have no trouble accepting this. I don't try to candy-coat the image

of Ma Kali and actually tend toward the fiercer forms when it comes to Puja. I'm

not cutting off heads myself ;-) but I don't shy away from the animal sacrifice

part.

 

I went to Bengal as a vegetarian To watch the sacrifices repulsed me at first,

but I learned to accept everything as a part of Ma.

 

Shakti is beyond our ideas of good and evil, I believe that to realize her you

have to accept nature in all its postive and negative forms. You can find

metaphors where they may guide you, but there is always reality defying our

simple rationalizations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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