Women Vigilantes Kill Serial Rapist, Win Bail

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August 18, 2004 (Nagpur) - Hours after they were remanded to

judicial custody for a day, five women allegedly involved in the

lynching of notorious gangster Akku Yadav on August 13, were

released on bail.

 

A team of defence lawyers argued before district judge G S Kasawa

that the five accused women be released on bail since the

investigating agencies have found no evidence against them.

 

District pleader Prasant Sathianathan and investigating officer of

the state CID were summoned by the court, who gave no objection to

their release.

 

Accordingly, the court ordered their release on furnishing of Rs

5,000 each as personal bond.

 

"The investigating officer gave a no objection certificate, he had

no problem releasing the women," said Lobesh Mishra, Defence

Counsel. "The prosecutor also had no objection as there was no

incriminating evidence."

 

And as news emerged that five of their comrades have been given

bail, the women of Kasturba Nagar cheered outside Nagpur's session

court.

 

INTENSE DRAMA

 

Earlier, Judicial Magistrate First Class R N Mehre had fixed the

order for tomorrow while ordering a day's judicial remand for the

five women - Anjane Bai, Leela, Bhagiradi Bai, Savita and Pinki.

 

The prosecution had insisted for their magisterial custody while the

defence urged the court to release them on bail.

 

Yadav was stabbed and hit with stones by a mob led by chilli-powder

wielding women in a courtroom in the Nyay Mandir premises on August

13.

 

The women feared that he would be released by the court and return

to Kasturba Nagar, where he had unleashed a reign of terror for over

a decade.

 

REIGN OF TERROR

 

On the day of the big court hearing, Kasturba Nagar was calm.

However, not long ago when Akku Yadav was alive, this middle class

locality would be shaken by screams of women - victims of the

criminal and his men.

 

Virtually every second home here has a story to tell of rape,

gangrape or sexual humiliation. It's these repeated violations over

almost a decade which the women say pushed them to plan his murder

in open court.

 

In the week that has gone by, these women have appeared brave,

defiant and unabashed as they recounted stories of unspeakable

horror of how Akku Yadav used rape as a potent weapon to terrorize

an entire community.

 

However, even now these stories remain without names and faces -

brutalities that happened to other people. Not a single woman is

willing to step forward and stand up as a victim of the man who

pushed them over the edge.

 

SILENT VICTIMS

 

Vilas Bhande, a lawyer who is married to one of the women here and

is representing their case in the court, understands their silence.

 

He told NDTV of the brazen ease with which Akku and his gang would

enter homes and the nightmare that would then unfold.

 

"For them, it becomes a question of social stigma. So they don't

speak about it," says Bhande. "But that does not mean that they were

not victimised.

 

"Every second or third house in this locality has a victim," adds

Bhande. "He would hold people at knifepoint, enter their houses,

drink and sleep with anyone he pleased. If any woman protested, he

would drag her to the open construction site behind the colony and

gangrape her, where everyone could watch and hear everything, and

then gangrape the woman with his friends."

 

SOCIAL STIGMA

 

Social stigma has meant that many of the cases Bhande has compiled

will remain faceless. One woman was brave enough to complain but

only faced police humiliation.

 

"One woman had gone to complain to the police about how Akku forced

his way into her house, locked her husband in the bathroom and

dragged her with him," says Bhande. "To this the police told her

since Akku went to her house, she must have had a relationship with

him."

 

Although Akku Yadav has been killed, he had a gang of six people,

who have not been arrested yet.

 

This may be a case where the personal is no longer personal. Yet

even as these women step out into the public realm, they do so

collectively in the safety of numbers and safety of anonymity.

 

SOURCE: New Delhi Television Ltd. (NDTV Ltd.)

URL: http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?

slug=Akku+Yadav+case%3A+Bail+hearing+postponed&id=58948

[Guest guest]

I HIGHLY commend these brave women!!

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I also commend these women! But I think they should have given the

rapist a taste of his own medicine, and maybe each woman rape him

repeatedly with a big dildo for a few hours while they kick him in

the testicles while he screams for mercy that he never showed to any

of his victims. I hate rapists.

 

Chris

 

 

 

, Pamele Brooks

<pbabc2002> wrote:

>

> I HIGHLY commend these brave women!!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

alwaysyoufirst2000 wrote: I also commend these women! But I think

they should have given the rapist a taste of his own medicine, and

maybe each woman rape him repeatedly with a big dildo for a few hours

while they kick him in the testicles while he screams for mercy that

he never showed to any of his victims. I hate rapists.

 

Will hate actually solve the problem?

[Guest guest]

years ago I heard of a group of french women who not only took care of

rapists but handled all violence torwards women. I havent heard of them lately

and

I never knew what they were called.

 

If anyone knows about those women and what they are doing these days I would

love to know

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Please stop the violent talk here.

-

alwaysyoufirst2000

Friday, August 20, 2004 9:45 PM

Re: Women Vigilantes Kill Serial Rapist, Win Bail

 

 

I also commend these women! But I think they should have given the

rapist a taste of his own medicine, and maybe each woman rape him

repeatedly with a big dildo for a few hours while they kick him in

the testicles while he screams for mercy that he never showed to any

of his victims. I hate rapists.

 

Chris

 

 

 

, Pamele Brooks

<pbabc2002> wrote:

>

> I HIGHLY commend these brave women!!

>

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b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Only a MAN would ask something so stupid! Rape may be seen as sex by some men,

but it is a CRIME! So he should have got a taste of his own medicine! What were

the women supposed to do? THANK HIM?

 

 

 

 

 

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, "Detective_Mongo_Phd"

<detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

> Please stop the violent talk here.

 

I second that. Please!

> -

> [Chris wrote:]

> [....] I also commend these women!

> But I think they should have given the

> rapist a taste of his own medicine, [....]

[Guest guest]

Pamele Brookswrote: Only a MAN would ask something so stupid! Rape

may be seen as sex by some men, but it is a CRIME! So he should have

got a taste of his own medicine! What were the women supposed to do?

THANK HIM?

 

So by behaving like the man, makes us different? Does violent not

brings in more violent?

 

In order to break this cycle we need to move out, to think "outside

the box" so to speak, otherwise we all are trap into this cycle. My

humble opinion that is.

 

Does being submissive being weak or it is a sign of strength itself?

Humility means we are fragile? Returning love and prayers to the

doer after being insulted and humiliated means we are an idiot? What

does being a feminist really mean? I have often wonder this term.

[Guest guest]

detective_mongo_phd wrote: Please stop the violent talk here.

 

msbauju ; I second that. Please!

 

I DISAGREE !!!!

 

By avoiding the topic are we not trying to run away from the fact of

life. Violent is all around us, weather we like it or not, it is

there. We cannot pretend, close our eyes and ear and say : I do not

want to hear about such violent act being committed. I believe we

should open our eyes and see no matter how unpleasant it may be. The

point is when this violent topic get carried away [and people add

more "fire" to it instead of finding meaning and

understanding as to

why such violent are being committed] then that is where I feel is

wrong. I personally believe Shakti Sadhana encompases everything, no

matter how horrible it may be. The Ultimate goal in my opinion is to

transcendent above all these unpleasantness.

[Guest guest]

Hi Nora: To me, feminism just means bringing balance. It means

recognizing that religions that put down the female, and social systems

that do the same, create a lopsidedness that does not allow for the

fullness of humanity to flourish in each of us. You are certainly

right, we all need to find ways of dealing with our emotions so that we

do not just become the oppressor when we throw off our oppression. But

I don't think submission is always the way to go when we are attacked.

It is an option, certainly, and it doesn't have to mean "weak," either.

I like what Eckhart Tolle says (in The Power of Now): even pacifism is

a concept. If we let go of concepts of how we should act, how then will

we act when confronted by a challenge, such as a rapist? Tolle gave no

answers on that, but his questions were thought-provoking.

 

Mary Ann

 

 

, "N. Madasamy" <

ashwini_puralasamy> wrote:

> Pamele Brookswrote: Only a MAN would ask something so stupid! Rape

> may be seen as sex by some men, but it is a CRIME! So he should have

> got a taste of his own medicine! What were the women supposed to do?

> THANK HIM?

>

> So by behaving like the man, makes us different? Does violent not

> brings in more violent?

>

> In order to break this cycle we need to move out, to think "outside

> the box" so to speak, otherwise we all are trap into this cycle. My

> humble opinion that is.

>

> Does being submissive being weak or it is a sign of strength itself?

> Humility means we are fragile? Returning love and prayers to the

> doer after being insulted and humiliated means we are an idiot? What

> does being a feminist really mean? I have often wonder this term.

[Guest guest]

I'm not saying that we cannot discuss violence, but I am saying that

perjoratives, and hostile language should be kept to a minimum. As said,

Madasamy, violence is always around us, and frankly, I prefer to minimize it.

Taking us the sword is not the way to peace, and neither in taking up the pen.

-

N. Madasamy

Wednesday, August 25, 2004 12:54 AM

Re: Women Vigilantes Kill Serial Rapist, Win Bail

 

 

detective_mongo_phd wrote: Please stop the violent talk here.

 

msbauju ; I second that. Please!

 

I DISAGREE !!!!

 

By avoiding the topic are we not trying to run away from the fact of

life. Violent is all around us, weather we like it or not, it is

there. We cannot pretend, close our eyes and ear and say : I do not

want to hear about such violent act being committed. I believe we

should open our eyes and see no matter how unpleasant it may be. The

point is when this violent topic get carried away [and people add

more "fire" to it instead of finding meaning and

understanding as to

why such violent are being committed] then that is where I feel is

wrong. I personally believe Shakti Sadhana encompases everything, no

matter how horrible it may be. The Ultimate goal in my opinion is to

transcendent above all these unpleasantness.

 

 

 

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b..

 

c..

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Being submissive is being weak at the WRONG TIME! You

are CRAZY if you allow someone to rape you and just

"pray" for them! Faith w/o works is DEAD! You don't

let anyone violate your body and get away with it! The

courts in India betrayed the victims and so the women

did the RIGHT thing by takeing the law into their own

hands! IF there were more people like you, women

wouldn't be allowed to vote, work or even SPEAK! Maybe

you get off on rape-sex, but the normal see is a SICK

and as a crime!

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Pamele:

 

When someone has the ability to kill you, like if they have you at

gunpoint or knifepoint, or if they have your child at their mercy, you

might choose "submission" and that would not necessarily be weak. I

agree, though, that women are socialized to be submissive and weak,

and to accept abuse, or to allow it, and so are men. How else could

the world be the way it is?

 

 

, Pamele Brooks <pbabc2002>

wrote:

> Being submissive is being weak at the WRONG TIME! You

> are CRAZY if you allow someone to rape you and just

> "pray" for them! Faith w/o works is DEAD! You don't

> let anyone violate your body and get away with it! The

> courts in India betrayed the victims and so the women

> did the RIGHT thing by takeing the law into their own

> hands! IF there were more people like you, women

> wouldn't be allowed to vote, work or even SPEAK! Maybe

> you get off on rape-sex, but the normal see is a SICK

> and as a crime!

>

>

>

> _______________________________

>

> Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Enter now.

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[Guest guest]

I was talking about after the rape, the courts decided

to let the man go, so of course they should take the

lw into their own hands! And you have GOT to be crazy,

knife point , gun point, whatever, you don't let

anyone RAPE you! You fight for your life! Even Oprarh

said once you agree to go to crime scene number two

then you are DEAD or living with the rape misery for

LIFE! I will fight to the DEATH before anyone violates

my body!

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Forgot to ask -- if your child was threatened to be raped at gun or knifepoint,

would you LET it happen and THEN do something AFTERWARDS? That's the WRONG time

to be submissive and turns feminism into a JOKE! Only to be a target for

predators! Those women did the RIGHT thing!

[Guest guest]

You have misunderstood my point. If two assailants with weapons are

attacking you, and one has your child at gunpoint or knifepoint and

threatens to kill your child unless you submit to rape by the other

assailant, what would you do? No one is saying those women didnt' do

the "right" thing. No one is saying they did anything wrong. I was

just saying that "submission," or what might be called that, may

sometimes be what a woman chooses, either consciously or

unconsciously. If a woman chose to be raped rather than allow her

child to be killed as in the above scenario, would you say she did the

wrong thing?

 

, Pamele Brooks <pbabc2002>

wrote:

> Forgot to ask -- if your child was threatened to be raped at gun or

knifepoint, would you LET it happen and THEN do something AFTERWARDS?

That's the WRONG time to be submissive and turns feminism into a JOKE!

Only to be a target for predators! Those women did the RIGHT thing!

[Guest guest]

Wow. Andy Warhol, or whoever it was, who said that seeing inside some people's

reality will sometimes drive one insane was right.

Linda

 

Mary Ann <maryann wrote:

 

You have misunderstood my point. If two assailants with weapons are

attacking you, and one has your child at gunpoint or knifepoint and

threatens to kill your child unless you submit to rape by the other

assailant, what would you do? No one is saying those women didnt' do

the "right" thing. No one is saying they did anything wrong. I was

just saying that "submission," or what might be called that, may

sometimes be what a woman chooses, either consciously or

unconsciously. If a woman chose to be raped rather than allow her

child to be killed as in the above scenario, would you say she did the

wrong thing?

 

, Pamele Brooks

 

wrote:

> Forgot to ask -- if your child was threatened to be raped at gun or

knifepoint, would you LET it happen and THEN do something AFTERWARDS?

That's the WRONG time to be submissive and turns feminism into a JOKE!

Only to be a target for predators! Those women did the RIGHT thing!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well, I have been thinking that I watch too much Law & Order. But

if you've been following this thread, the issue raised was that

violence is in the world, so how do we deal with it? My post that

you've replied to here was attempting to show that there is no

black and white about women's responses to extreme threats to

safety and well-being. At least, that was my point. Whether I

made it effectively or not is another thing.

 

Some members had complained that there was violent talk on

the board, and I had intended this thread to explore this topic

from the perspective Nora had brought up, that such things exist

and it's better not to turn a blind eye. So, it was an exercise. My

feeling is that women should not be judged for their reactions in

extreme circumstances, whether they "submit," or kill in

self-defense, or kill afterward, like the women in the post that

initiated this thread.

 

Mary Ann

 

, linda peterson

<lindapeterson2002> wrote:

> Wow. Andy Warhol, or whoever it was, who said that seeing

inside some people's reality will sometimes drive one insane

was right.

> Linda

>

> Mary Ann <maryann@m...> wrote:

>

> You have misunderstood my point. If two assailants with

weapons are

> attacking you, and one has your child at gunpoint or knifepoint

and

> threatens to kill your child unless you submit to rape by the

other

> assailant, what would you do? No one is saying those women

didnt' do

> the "right" thing. No one is saying they did anything wrong. I

was

> just saying that "submission," or what might be called that,

may

> sometimes be what a woman chooses, either consciously or

> unconsciously. If a woman chose to be raped rather than allow

her

> child to be killed as in the above scenario, would you say she

did the

> wrong thing?

>

> , Pamele Brooks

>

> wrote:

> > Forgot to ask -- if your child was threatened to be raped at

gun or

> knifepoint, would you LET it happen and THEN do something

AFTERWARDS?

> That's the WRONG time to be submissive and turns feminism

into a JOKE!

> Only to be a target for predators! Those women did the RIGHT

thing!

>

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> Links

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[Guest guest]

I've always thought that humiliation is the proper punishment for

rape or attempted rape. Tie the guy to a chair, then have a thousand

women line up and spit in his face.

 

Yvonne in USA

[Guest guest]

Jep! )

 

Pamele Brooks <pbabc2002 wrote:Forgot to ask -- if your child was

threatened to be raped at gun or knifepoint, would you LET it happen and THEN do

something AFTERWARDS? That's the WRONG time to be submissive and turns feminism

into a JOKE! Only to be a target for predators! Those women did the RIGHT thing!

 

 

/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It IS the wrong thing if you allow your child to be

raped and stand there and do NOTHING! If surrounded by

a circle of guns, that's one thing, but if not you do

everything in your power to prevent your child being

mentally, physically and emotionally scarred for life.

 

....

 

Well I guess that makes you insane, for not doiung a

thing while you are being raped! You are plain crazy!