Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 This message have been posted in our guest book. I believe should be in the message board. >From Kali I Have heard there are people posseing as Hindus in order to convert Hindus to other religions and to spread hatred is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Quite possible; I have come accross christian seminaries teaching Hinduism so that they can get round Hindu teachings. In fact now they accept Vedas and try to twist it to say that Christ is referred to there. Of course its all "You Know What" *smile*. But its poor christians who are getting brainwashed - at least in Kerala. As the propaganda goes on the resistence to Hinduism will be reduced as, after all Hindu texts are accepted as authority by the church, then why not explore? then it CAN lead to understanding the essential unity whereupon the conversion gimmicks will fail. "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy wrote: This message have been posted in our guest book. I believe should be in the message board. >From Kali I Have heard there are people posseing as Hindus in order to convert Hindus to other religions and to spread hatred is this true? / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 It's just amazing to me that people would work in subterfuge this way - spy / terrorist tactics as a path to the Divine. Recently I was reading a book by a woman named Betty Eadie who was born native American. She had a near-death experience and suddenly, Jesus was all. When she died and met her maker, that maker was Jesus, white and male. She had an interesting idea about reincarnation, too: an explanation of why people seem to have past-life memories - something about how each of our family members' (ancestors) memories are contained in our cells when we are born. I found that interesting. I was not able to read the book from cover to cover, though, and eventually I returned it to the library unfinished because I began to feelt that the "explanation" of there being no such thing as reincarnation was propaganda. I don't think Ms. Eadie meant ill at all. Her book was a New York Times bestseller, and I'm sure it's true to her near-death experience. To me, though, the book clearly shows the effects of erasing a culture (native Americans) and its way(s) of life. Mary Ann , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > > Quite possible; I have come accross christian seminaries teaching Hinduism so that they can get round Hindu teachings. > > In fact now they accept Vedas and try to twist it to say that Christ is referred to there. Of course its all "You Know What" *smile*. But its poor christians who are getting brainwashed - at least in Kerala. > > As the propaganda goes on the resistence to Hinduism will be reduced as, after all Hindu texts are accepted as authority by the church, then why not explore? then it CAN lead to understanding the essential unity whereupon the conversion gimmicks will fail. > > "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > This message have been posted in our guest book. I believe should be > in the message board. > > From Kali@m... > > I Have heard there are people posseing as Hindus in order to convert > Hindus to other religions and to spread hatred is this true? > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Mary Ann wrote: It's just amazing to me that people would work in subterfuge this way - spy / terrorist tactics as a path to the Divine. Good Morning Mary Ann and to All. Well Mary Ann nothing is amazing as far as I am concern when comes to this. We just have to look within our body and there lies all the amazing things that we need to know. People around us are just the macroscopic representation of what actually is taking place within our body. Many years ago, I have to give an explanation to a group of young national service boys [in Singapore all 18yrs old above male must perform national service] about Aids. AID was relatively new then and globally people are still trying to grasp to understand this AID phenomenon. How to explain to this non-medical person about AID and how it works without using all those bombastic medical jargons. That was my greatest challenge then. And I go like this: `Look you see what is this: The Command Center. The Nucleus of the Ministry of Defense. So tell me what is the function of this command center. [One of the boys answered]. Okay this is a you guy; situated at the strategic location and you are supposed to defend the country right? [They all nodded]. Lets take for example you have an enemy, a spy and he/she comes in disguise as one of you. She/He is not bothered about you guys because he/She knows you are easily fooled. She/He bypass all of you easily and goes straight to The Command Center, change her/his disguise into another high ranking officer and eventually take control of the center. What do you think will happen? [They look at one another and one of them said: that is bad. Very bad] yes! So whatever message/information comes from the center is `infected'. This spy is master of disguise like the character in The Day of the Jackal, this is what AIDS is all about.' If you get ill very often, would we blame the virus/germs or is it because our body defense system is weak? Somebody said, if I give you a poison, could your body neutralize this poison? Yes! I am a firm believer of this. Our body has the capacity to do almost the impossible thing. I have seen several cases where people who are being diagnose with cancer and were told: oh! Your mother/father/sister etc have only 6 month left. But after 6 month, this person is still alive and his/her cancer disappears altogether. How do you explain this? Miracle or Divine grace. In my opinion is the working of the body mechanism. The body has the capacity to heal by itself, because the Body itself is a Divine Being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Some people have mystical experiences. Without exception, they perceive it through the tinted glass of their ego and bias. It (the bias) colors not only the explanation of the event, but often the event itself. Mary Ann [maryann] Sunday, August 22, 2004 19:43 Re: Question from Homepage : Spreading Hatred It's just amazing to me that people would work in subterfuge this way - spy / terrorist tactics as a path to the Divine. Recently I was reading a book by a woman named Betty Eadie who was born native American. She had a near-death experience and suddenly, Jesus was all. When she died and met her maker, that maker was Jesus, white and male. She had an interesting idea about reincarnation, too: an explanation of why people seem to have past-life memories - something about how each of our family members' (ancestors) memories are contained in our cells when we are born. I found that interesting. I was not able to read the book from cover to cover, though, and eventually I returned it to the library unfinished because I began to feelt that the "explanation" of there being no such thing as reincarnation was propaganda. I don't think Ms. Eadie meant ill at all. Her book was a New York Times bestseller, and I'm sure it's true to her near-death experience. To me, though, the book clearly shows the effects of erasing a culture (native Americans) and its way(s) of life. Mary Ann , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > > Quite possible; I have come accross christian seminaries teaching Hinduism so that they can get round Hindu teachings. > > In fact now they accept Vedas and try to twist it to say that Christ is referred to there. Of course its all "You Know What" *smile*. But its poor christians who are getting brainwashed - at least in Kerala. > > As the propaganda goes on the resistence to Hinduism will be reduced as, after all Hindu texts are accepted as authority by the church, then why not explore? then it CAN lead to understanding the essential unity whereupon the conversion gimmicks will fail. > > "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > This message have been posted in our guest book. I believe should be > in the message board. > > From Kali@m... > > I Have heard there are people posseing as Hindus in order to convert > Hindus to other religions and to spread hatred is this true? > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129nlcuba/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1093304623/A=2319501/R=0/SIG=11tq0u909/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185353&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver./l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2319501/rand=303621102> _____ * / * <?subject=Un> * Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 "Jesus white and male" *smile* in all probablity with golden hair and blue eyes too. )) Same thing applies to Mary in Visions. Butin all probablity the truth is Jesus was a pure blooded Palestinian jew looking like the "terrorists" of to-day. Not like the blonde white jews who are just Caucasians whose ancestors married jews. Not pure blooded jews. I am told that very conveniently all references to the physical discription to Jesus were "erased" from the bible. Why? Because I read somewhere that he was a dark hunchback with disease or something. There is only one reference or something left in the bible. Probably overlooked by the censors. But there has been enough tampering to bring about a discreption to suit the times. In http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm the golden hair is stressed. He is made very handsome etc. I very much doubt these discriptions. This has to be contrasted with what bible itself says:- Just as there were many who were appalled at Him – His appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and His form marred beyond human likeness….He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to Him, nothing in His appearance that we should desire Him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces He was despised, and we esteemed Him not. Isaiah 52:14 - 53:1-3 (http://www.yfiles.com/black.html) Actually IMHO we should be least bothered with the physical discription of this great soul. But for propagandists it is important. They look at the form and not the substance. It is my feeling that our visions are conditioned by our personal experiences. I remember someone telling me that a person of another belief system once encountered a person who is a Shakti sadhaka and was surprised to see a "spirit" hovering above or around him which that person charecterised as one of that belief system because that person had no other discription to relate to. Actually IMHO these personal discriptions are very personal and person specific. It is unnecessary to attach any importance to this. In tantra it is said the Lalita whom I worship is entirely different from the Lalita another worship. Though the basic traits remain the same special charecterestics vary. Some people have mystical experiences. Without exception, they perceive it through the tinted glass of their ego and bias. It (the bias) colors not only the explanation of the event, but often the event itself. Mary Ann [maryann] Sunday, August 22, 2004 19:43 Re: Question from Homepage : Spreading Hatred It's just amazing to me that people would work in subterfuge this way - spy / terrorist tactics as a path to the Divine. Recently I was reading a book by a woman named Betty Eadie who was born native American. She had a near-death experience and suddenly, Jesus was all. When she died and met her maker, that maker was Jesus, white and male. She had an interesting idea about reincarnation, too: an explanation of why people seem to have past-life memories - something about how each of our family members' (ancestors) memories are contained in our cells when we are born. I found that interesting. I was not able to read the book from cover to cover, though, and eventually I returned it to the library unfinished because I began to feelt that the "explanation" of there being no such thing as reincarnation was propaganda. I don't think Ms. Eadie meant ill at all. Her book was a New York Times bestseller, and I'm sure it's true to her near-death experience. To me, though, the book clearly shows the effects of erasing a culture (native Americans) and its way(s) of life. Mary Ann , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > > Quite possible; I have come accross christian seminaries teaching Hinduism so that they can get round Hindu teachings. > > In fact now they accept Vedas and try to twist it to say that Christ is referred to there. Of course its all "You Know What" *smile*. But its poor christians who are getting brainwashed - at least in Kerala. > > As the propaganda goes on the resistence to Hinduism will be reduced as, after all Hindu texts are accepted as authority by the church, then why not explore? then it CAN lead to understanding the essential unity whereupon the conversion gimmicks will fail. > > "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: This message have been posted in our guest book. I believe should be in the message board. > > From Kali@m... > > I Have heard there are people posseing as Hindus in order to convert Hindus to other religions and to spread hatred is this true? > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129nlcuba/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1093304623/A=2319501/R=0/SIG=11tq0u909/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185353&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver./l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2319501/rand=303621102> _____ * / * <?subject=Un> * Terms of Service <> . / Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Yes, this is true. I recently read a bunch of books by people who have had near-death experiences. Most people who have "died" and lived to tell about it have had similar experiences. I wonder if any cultural studies have been done as to this type of experience. The near-death experience has itself not been taken very seriously by many, so not sure whether studies have been done cross-culturally. It seems many people are met by dear family members who have already died. But even if they weren't met by loved ones, they often felt an overwhelming sense of love that encompassed all kinds of love ever felt, like romance, and the love of a child for a parent, and the love between friends. This love has been felt as all pervasive upon death. One book addressed the issue of when there was sexual abuse by a parent, a survivor of that would not want to be met by that abusive family member (and wasn't). It seemed that people were met by those they loved and wished to see again, though not everyone saw their departed loved ones. Reminds me of the movie Contact when Jodie Foster's character (who takes a trip in a machine built from blueprints transmitted from outer space) is met on the beach where she "lands" by her dearly departed father, because the universe is so vast, it is easier to begin the experience through meeting a beloved family member. Of course, that was a Carl Sagan story. , Mouse <uri@o...> wrote: > Some people have mystical experiences. Without exception, they perceive it > through the tinted glass of their ego and bias. It (the bias) colors not > only the explanation of the event, but often the event itself. > > > > > Mary Ann [maryann@m...] > Sunday, August 22, 2004 19:43 > > Re: Question from Homepage : Spreading Hatred > > > It's just amazing to me that people would work in subterfuge this way > - spy / terrorist tactics as a path to the Divine. > > Recently I was reading a book by a woman named Betty Eadie who was > born native American. She had a near-death experience and suddenly, > Jesus was all. When she died and met her maker, that maker was Jesus, > white and male. She had an interesting idea about reincarnation, too: > an explanation of why people seem to have past-life memories - > something about how each of our family members' (ancestors) memories > are contained in our cells when we are born. I found that interesting. > I was not able to read the book from cover to cover, though, and > eventually I returned it to the library unfinished because I began to > feelt that the "explanation" of there being no such thing as > reincarnation was propaganda. I don't think Ms. Eadie meant ill at > all. Her book was a New York Times bestseller, and I'm sure it's true > to her near-death experience. To me, though, the book clearly shows > the effects of erasing a culture (native Americans) and its way(s) of > life. > > Mary Ann > > , sankara menon <kochu1tz> > wrote: > > > > Quite possible; I have come accross christian seminaries teaching > Hinduism so that they can get round Hindu teachings. > > > > In fact now they accept Vedas and try to twist it to say that Christ > is referred to there. Of course its all "You Know What" *smile*. But > its poor christians who are getting brainwashed - at least in Kerala. > > > > As the propaganda goes on the resistence to Hinduism will be reduced > as, after all Hindu texts are accepted as authority by the church, > then why not explore? then it CAN lead to understanding the essential > unity whereupon the conversion gimmicks will fail. > > > > "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > > This message have been posted in our guest book. I believe should be > > in the message board. > > > > From Kali@m... > > > > I Have heard there are people posseing as Hindus in order to convert > > Hindus to other religions and to spread hatred is this true? > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129nlcuba/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=gr > oups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1093304623/A=2319501/R=0/SIG=11tq0u909/*http://www. > netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185353&partid=5285298> click here > > <http://us.adserver./l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=groups/S= > :HM/A=2319501/rand=303621102> > > > _____ > > Links > > > * > / > > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > > * Terms of Service > <> . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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