Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 People tend to want to see God as looking like themselves and their family. African-Americans often quote Bible scripture to explain that Jesus was a Black man with dark brown skin and wooly hair. Although the Buddha was a Kshatriya prince from northern India, in Japan and other far-Eastern countries the Buddha is portrayed as Japanese. A young South Asian man, fascinated that I was attending the Hindu Temple in Flushing, asked what Ishtadevata I had. When I replied Sarasvati Devi and Lord Shiva, he laughed, saying, "Of course you would worship the Deities who had white skin!" But Hindus know that the Devas are masters of Maya. Any Deity can assume any form desired (or no form at all!). It is a mistake to assume that Ganesha is likely to manifest in your life as a red-skinned human with an elephant's face. At least, not on the material plane. Furthermore, if there is any validity to reincarnation, I suspect that all of us have had many lifetimes experiencing every race and ethnicity, gender and sexual orientation. We at some time have been extremely wealthy and dispairingly poor. The point is to treasure the light provided by life's experience, and not to solely identify with the shape and structure of the lamp. The Hindu Temple in Flushing has two sculpted wheels on its facade, making it resemble a chariot. One wheel has an image of Ganesha dancing in its center. The other wheel has symbols of world religions: Jewish six-pointed Star and Christian Cross, Buddhist Dharma-Wheel and Moslem Crescent and Star, and of course a Hindu Om. All paths lead to the Truth, though Mortals call it by different names. -- Len/ Kalipadma On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:29:11 -0700 (PDT) sankara menon <kochu1tz writes: > "Jesus white and male" *smile* in all probablity with golden hair and > blue eyes too. )) > Same thing applies to Mary in Visions. Butin all probablity the > truth is Jesus was a pure blooded Palestinian jew looking like the > "terrorists" of to-day. Not like the blonde white jews who are just > Caucasians whose ancestors married jews. Not pure blooded jews. > I am told that very conveniently all references to the physical > discription to Jesus were "erased" from the bible. Why? Because I > read somewhere that he was a dark hunchback with disease or > something. There is only one reference or something left in the > bible. Probably overlooked by the censors. > > But there has been enough tampering to bring about a discreption to > suit the times. > In http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm the > golden hair is stressed. He is made very handsome etc. I very much > doubt these discriptions. > > This has to be contrasted with what bible itself says:- > > Just as there were many who were appalled at Him – His appearance > was so disfigured beyond that of any man and His form marred beyond > human likeness….He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to Him, > nothing in His appearance that we should desire Him. He was despised > and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. > Like one from whom men hide their faces He was despised, and we > esteemed Him not. Isaiah 52:14 - 53:1-3 > (http://www.yfiles.com/black.html) > > Actually IMHO we should be least bothered with the physical > discription of this great soul. But for propagandists it is > important. They look at the form and not the substance. It is my > feeling that our visions are conditioned by our personal > experiences. > > I remember someone telling me that a person of another belief system > once encountered a person who is a Shakti sadhaka and was surprised > to see a "spirit" hovering above or around him which that person > charecterised as one of that belief system because that person had > no other discription to relate to. > > Actually IMHO these personal discriptions are very personal and > person specific. It is unnecessary to attach any importance to this. > In tantra it is said the Lalita whom I worship is entirely different > from the Lalita another worship. Though the basic traits remain the > same special charecterestics vary. > > Some people have mystical experiences. Without exception, they > perceive it through the tinted glass of their ego and bias. It (the > bias) colors not only the explanation of the event, but often the > event itself. > > > > > Mary Ann [maryann] > Sunday, August 22, 2004 19:43 > > Re: Question from Homepage : Spreading > Hatred > > > It's just amazing to me that people would work in subterfuge this > way - spy / terrorist tactics as a path to the Divine. > > Recently I was reading a book by a woman named Betty Eadie who was > born native American. She had a near-death experience and suddenly, > Jesus was all. When she died and met her maker, that maker was > Jesus, white and male. She had an interesting idea about > reincarnation, too: > an explanation of why people seem to have past-life memories - > something about how each of our family members' (ancestors) memories > are contained in our cells when we are born. I found that > interesting. > I was not able to read the book from cover to cover, though, and > eventually I returned it to the library unfinished because I began > to feelt that the "explanation" of there being no such thing as > reincarnation was propaganda. I don't think Ms. Eadie meant ill at > all. Her book was a New York Times bestseller, and I'm sure it's > true to her near-death experience. To me, though, the book clearly > shows > the effects of erasing a culture (native Americans) and its way(s) > of life. > > Mary Ann > > , sankara menon <kochu1tz> > > wrote: > > > > Quite possible; I have come accross christian seminaries teaching > Hinduism so that they can get round Hindu teachings. > > > > In fact now they accept Vedas and try to twist it to say that > Christ is referred to there. Of course its all "You Know What" > *smile*. But its poor christians who are getting brainwashed - at > least in Kerala. > > > > As the propaganda goes on the resistence to Hinduism will be > reduced as, after all Hindu texts are accepted as authority by the > church, then why not explore? then it CAN lead to understanding the > essential unity whereupon the conversion gimmicks will fail. > > > > "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > > This message have been posted in our guest book. 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