Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 [ IN previous message a Note : We will gradually do our delayed posting of Sarva Sanksobhini, Sarva VidrAvini, SarvA Karsini, Sarva Vasankari, Sarva MAdini and Sarva MahAnkusA respectively over the next few days.] This is our first delayed posting of the Khadgamala Seris. The Sri Chakra, consists of nine enclosures surrounding the central point. The enclosures consist of the layers within the innerwheel (containing the familiar design of interlocking triangles),then two rings of lotuses, then a square gated wall, three layersdeep. There is one gate on each side of this wall.The walls are generally shown in the Srichakra as three concentriclines, collectively forming the first of the nine enclosures. The three lines to be visualized respectively as white, red and yellow in color. The yellow is not bright yellow, but pIta, the yellow of butter. Nor is the red a deep blood red; it is aruna, the color ofrising sun. We started with the Siddhis Devis namely : Anima, Laghima, Mahima, Isitva, Vasitva, Prakamya, Bhukti, Iccha, Prapti and Sarvakama Siddi Devis. All these devis occupies the outter most layer of the first enclosure.. These are the Ten Siddhis, or Powers, guarding the white outermost wall of the first enclosure. White in color representing the sAtwic quality: Right after the Siddhis Devis, we progress inward to the second layer of the enclosure wall, which is colored as the red of the rising sun.There are eight devatas guarding this layer. They are the famous Seven Mothers (saptamatrka), plus one added Mahalaskmi. They representing the Eight Passions. The color red symbolizes the Raja guna. It should be noted that all of the Khadgamala Devis are facing outward, away from the centre of the Srichakra. As we journey inwards to the innermost wall of the first first enclosure which is yellow in colour, we encounter the “Control Devis” or the Mudra Saktis. Sri Amritananda Natha comments: “These are the Ten Devis offering the devotee control over the passions of lust, anger, possessiveness, obsession, pride, jealousy, good, and evil” (represented by the Eight Mothers of the previous wall or line):] In the scheme of the Khadgamala, each of the ten mudra or control saktis represent a human passion that must be overcome and controlled before we can enter further into Sri Chakra. We worship each passion as an aspect of Devi, then internalize it; and when we internalize each deity, we *become* Her, so that She is not separate from us. In that way, we "conquer" each passion, just as – in the outtermost and middlemost first enclosure wall – we conquered each siddhi and matrikas. The procedure to control these passions is to obtain the powers of: agiting all, liquifying all (this also refers to the physical sensation of orgasm), attracting all, controlling all, maddening all, directing all, moving in all space, be the information of all, be the source (yoni) of all, be tri-fold division of all (the knower, the knowing, and the known). Once you have internalized all of the sarva devis, you have completed the process of neutralizing the urge to worldly power (siddhis) and the crippling emotions (matrikas) Sarva Sanksobhini is the first mudra devis. SHE represents the power that agitates all . To agitate IS to make restless. Having controlled agitation so that the various vasanas crystalise, so that we can accept those that are necessary and reject the rest. Sarva Sanksobhini mantra is : aim hrim shrim sarvasaNkshobinI mudrA Shakti ShrIpAdukAM PujayAmi tarpayAmi namah Location : Looking at Srichakra, Sarva Sanksobhini sits to the right side of the gate closest to you on the square, innermost enclosure wall (i.e., No 1, Black ). Please note that the beauty of the Khadgamala Stotram is that NOTHING is required for its recitation except for your time, attention and concentration: You need simply sit and recite the Stotram. The mantra given just above is not part of the stotram; it is offered merely for informational purposes. The entire stotram is self-contained. Again, the full pooja of these Devis takes hours, because at each point we pause and do smaller, detailed poojas. Hence the sages of yore created an ALTERNATIVE, SHORT-FORM recitation known as the Khadgamala Stotram more suitable for the demands of modern life. According to Sri Bhasurananda Natha : "All of the sadhana of Srividya can be achieved by the recitation of the Khadgamala. Hours of long ritual compressed to less than half an hour of intense meditation that will give you a ticket on the same plane as the great Srividya Upasakas. Whatever your developmental stage, this is IT." Even those who have not been initiated into Srividya can benefit from the Khadgamala, which is why we chose to offer it to our members here. But again, please note that the beauty of the Khadgamala Stotram is that NOTHING is required for its recitation except for your time, attention and concentration: You need simply sit and recite the Stotram. The mantra given just above is not part of the stotram; it is offered merely for informational purposes.The entire stotram is self-contained. See link below : http://www.shaktisadhana.org/Photo%20Gallery/khadgamala/sridevikhadgamala.html [With sincere thanks and appreciation to Sri Amritananda Natha and Sri Bhasurananda Natha, who kindly provided detailed and substantive content for this commentary.] ".. you may shoot me with your words... you may cut me with your eyes ... you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still like air, I will rise ..." Maya Angelou " Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some stay for a while and leave foot prints on our heart and we are never ever the same again " Shakti Sadhana Homepage at http://www.shaktisadhana.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Hi Nora, > > It should be noted that all of the Khadgamala Devis are facing outward, away from the centre of the Srichakra. > Are you sure about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 jaimaa1008 wrote: Hi Nora, It should be noted that all of the Khadgamala Devis are facing outward, away from the centre of the Srichakra. Are you sure about this? According to Shri Bhasurananda Natha, The Devis each face outward with the bindu in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 > Again, the full pooja of these Devis takes hours, because at each point we pause and do smaller, detailed poojas. Hence the sages of yore created an ALTERNATIVE, SHORT-FORM recitation known as the Khadgamala Stotram more suitable for the demands of modern life. > > According to Sri Bhasurananda Natha : "All of the sadhana of Srividya can be achieved by the recitation of the Khadgamala. Hours of long ritual compressed to less than half an hour of intense meditation that will give you a ticket on the same plane as the great Srividya Upasakas. Whatever your developmental stage, this is IT." > Nora: if this is the case, then why would anyone do the long form of the pooja(which I am told may take upto 3 hours)? Or is that the Khadgamala is like sitting in the economy compartment and the full pooja is like a first class seat ? -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Hi Yogaman: We are disciplining the mind. In this complicated day and age, many people -- even serious sadhaks -- occasionally find themselves sorely lacking in time. When the mundane demands of everyday life become too pressing, one's sadhana is too often the first thing to be sacrificed. The Khadgamala Stotram is one solution to this dilemma. It's a way for us to do something of tremendous spritual significance and benefit in a relatively small amount of time -- maybe half an hour once you know it pretty well. In a perfect world of unlimited time and concentration, there is a full and specific pooja for each of these devis. It can take more than three hours to complete the circuit. And when we have the time and knowledge, we should do it that way. Because again, we are disciplining the mind. The mental impact of a full pooja is stronger though the spiritual impact is, it is said, equal. It's not economy vs first class. Why? Because we are still doing a complete circuit of Sri Chakra. It is a COMPLETE pooja for those with limited time; or those who is not yet ready to commit more time. That is why it's said that the KS will bring you what you need -- maybe that *is* more time; or maybe a deeper commitment to Devi's service. Or whatever. Maybe just a new washer and dryer, if that's where your head's at. We can't always read "Hamlet" in its entirety, though when we do its artistic and emotional impact can be simply tremendous. But when the time's just not there, maybe a good film adaption is an acceptable substitute. Maybe you're not up to tackling Joyce's 800-page magnum opus, "Ulysses" -- but you can still get a taste of his unique genius in the dozen pages of "Araby." Or on a more spiritual level, perhaps reading the Christian "New Testament" isn't something you feel like doing on a daily basis, but if that's what floats your boat you could do worse than re-skimming the gentle wisdom of the Sermon on the Mount (a practice that an awful lot of Christian missionaries and holy warriors ought to engage in more often). The idea is to do something every day, rather than nothing. Eight Balas is better than no Balas, eh? And because Srividya is such a concentrated and powerful form of Shakti sadhana, it is only natural that its sages would have discovered an unusually concentrated and powerful way to "do something rather than nothing" in just 30 minutes. That's my take, anyway DB > Nora: if this is the case, then why would anyone do the long form of > the pooja(which I am told may take upto 3 hours)? Or is that the > Khadgamala is like sitting in the economy compartment and the full > pooja is like a first class seat ? > > -yogaman , "childofdevi" <childofdevi> wrote:> > > Again, the full pooja of these Devis takes hours, because at each > point we pause and do smaller, detailed poojas. Hence the sages of > yore created an ALTERNATIVE, SHORT-FORM recitation known as the > Khadgamala Stotram more suitable for the demands of modern life. > > > > According to Sri Bhasurananda Natha : "All of the sadhana of > Srividya can be achieved by the recitation of the Khadgamala. Hours > of long ritual compressed to less than half an hour of intense > meditation that will give you a ticket on the same plane as the great > Srividya Upasakas. Whatever your developmental stage, this is IT." > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 In the photographs that are posted, the devis seem to be facing inwards or facing the Devi. ! , "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > jaimaa1008 wrote: Hi Nora, It should be noted that all of the > Khadgamala Devis are facing outward, away from the centre of the > Srichakra. > > Are you sure about this? > > > According to Shri Bhasurananda Natha, The Devis each face outward > with the bindu in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 We are looking at the pictures individually. And these pictures are send to us by staff of Devipuram themselves. We will be able to get a better picture if we are to look at them in its entirety. For what it takes, I shall stick to Shri Bhasurananda Natha views. That is all I have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 No they face otward jaimaa1008 <jaimaa1008 wrote:In the photographs that are posted, the devis seem to be facing inwards or facing the Devi. ! , "N. Madasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > jaimaa1008 wrote: Hi Nora, It should be noted that all of the > Khadgamala Devis are facing outward, away from the centre of the > Srichakra. > > Are you sure about this? > > > According to Shri Bhasurananda Natha, The Devis each face outward > with the bindu in the back. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Shri Chaitanyananda Natha (of the Sri Rajajrajeswari Peetam, Rochester)who has been caled the spiritual son of Shri Amritananda Natha and is one of his main disciples, in his book "Shri Vidya : Shri chakra Puja Vidhih" (p. 268)says: "Imagine theDevi to face (west)the sadhaka and all the avarana devatas to face the Devi from ththeie positions." This seems more logical as the chakras and mandalas work on the principle of the Sovereign and the subordinates, and it is logical that the deva/devis would face their Lord and Queen rather than turn their back to them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when in a discussion group where we are suppossed to discuss issues rather have them thrust on us the answers given to my question seems extemely arrogant. , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > No they face otward > > jaimaa1008 <jaimaa1008> wrote:In the photographs that are posted, the devis seem to be facing inwards or facing the Devi. ! > > > , "N. Madasamy" > <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > For what it takes, I shall stick to Shri Bhasurananda Natha views. That is all I have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Dear JaiMaa1008 ... Thank you for your input on the direction faced by the Khadgamala Devis. You closed by commenting, "we are suppossed to discuss issues rather have them thrust on us; the answers given to my question seem extremely arrogant." I don't think Nora or Kochu meant any offense. They are simply describing the configuration as their lineage teaches it. Obviously, Sri Chaitanyananda Natha is of a different lineage, having been initiated by Sri Amritananda; and so naturally his description would more closely reflect what is seen at Devipuram. There are sound, traditional reasons behind both understandings. Neither one is wrong. As always, any perceived conflict is resolved by following the precepts of one's lineage. So please do not be angry. Reading back through the posts, I see people sharing their understanding and belief; I do not see arrogance. I think we all know Nora and Kochu well enough to understand that they're good and fairminded people. Warmest regards DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.