Men & the Goddess

[Guest guest]

That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard in my life. Traditionally

most goddess cults have incorporated male followers, or even have males within

their respective priesthoods.

 

Do you think that the traditional Roman Diana had no male followers? You

think that there is not a tradition of male tantrik sadhaks or that Kali's most

famous and beloved saints like Ramakrishna, Bhamakhepa, or Ramprasad were not

themselves males?????

 

What a joke. Your beliefs are yours only and fit nowhere in the greater

scheme of truth.

 

a message dated 9/27/2004 4:09:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

eternalwytch1 writes:

 

I cannot see sense in having male energy involved in any way with a

Goddess AKA female belief system... Rather like adding asafoetida to

ones tea, ruins the brew and makes one ill. An all female coven bringing

male energy in, either by inviting them into the actual coven or

bringing it in by means of mating with one is defeating the whole reason

for an all female anything... To escape male influences and reclaim the

power of women.

[Guest guest]

, swastik108@a... wrote:

>Traditionally most goddess cults have incorporated male followers, or even have

males within their respective priesthoods.

 

Mystery cults by their nature elude capture by historians.

> Do you think that the traditional Roman Diana had no male

followers? You

> think that there is not a tradition of male tantrik sadhaks or

that Kali's most

> famous and beloved saints like Ramakrishna, Bhamakhepa, or

Ramprasad were not

> themselves males?????

 

That there are apples doesn't mean peaches cannot exist.

> What a joke. Your beliefs are yours only and fit nowhere in the

greater

> scheme of truth.

 

Ha ha ha ha! What an astonishing statement! I would not say that to

anyone, no matter how their beliefs did not speak to me, or seemed

to me to be a waste. One thing I do know, Truth is greater than my

personal perception and experience; that's a Blessing. Deity has a

sense of humor, and I personally find it helpful to cultivate one

myself.

 

I mean no offense to you; you must be in serious distress or feeling

backed into some corner I could not perceive to attack another so...

And of course, what really bothers you isn't in eternalwytch1 or

anyone else at all, it is more personal to you.

> That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard in my life.

 

How amazingly rude and judgemental of you.

 

Do you know yet what is bothering you?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/28/2004 10:36:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

seed_crystal writes:

>>> Do you know yet what is bothering you? <<<

 

Basically it comes down to someone having issues with me just because I am a

male. If somebody said they had something against me because I am of european

descent, male, brown hair, grren eyes, or anything else that I had no control

over and simply relating to the state of my birth then they incur my contempt

and disrespect.

 

I look at what somebody has done with their life, not their physical state.

Your argument was rather vague too and I mean no offense by that, but please

don't take my words out of context in relation to the nonsense she spouted.

 

seed_crystal also writes:

>>> How amazingly rude and judgemental of you. <<<

 

The original post at issue stated: "I cannot see sense in having male energy

involved in any way with a Goddess AKA female belief system... Rather like

adding asafoetida to ones tea, ruins the brew and makes one ill....."

 

My opinion is just this: How could one possibly justify that? As a male Shakta I

took offense to it and got a little edgy because within the context of Hinduism

it just doesn't hold water. It sounds like bigoted opinion and nothing more.

 

Research any culture in the world and you won't find verification for this

statement. Modern examples which I can readily call your attention to could be

Kali worship, reverence for mother Mary by catholics, or Tara devotees in

Buddhism among others.

 

It was a broad and sexist statement. All apples and peaches aside ;-)

 

I'm reading the Shiva Purana right now and in it are scenes of male gods and

humans worshipping the divine mother and thats an ancient text. These are not

new ideas.

[Guest guest]

"One thing I do know, Truth is greater than my personal

perception and experience;"

 

 

"True knowledge is an action of the Soul and is perfect without

the senses." --Ben Jonson

 

"Truth is greater than everything, but higher still is true living."

--Guru Nanak

 

 

, "seed_crystal"

<seed_crystal> wrote:

> , swastik108@a...

wrote:

>

> >Traditionally most goddess cults have incorporated male

followers, or even have males within their respective

priesthoods.

>

> Mystery cults by their nature elude capture by historians.

>

> > Do you think that the traditional Roman Diana had no male

> followers? You

> > think that there is not a tradition of male tantrik sadhaks or

> that Kali's most

> > famous and beloved saints like Ramakrishna, Bhamakhepa,

or

> Ramprasad were not

> > themselves males?????

>

> That there are apples doesn't mean peaches cannot exist.

>

> > What a joke. Your beliefs are yours only and fit nowhere in

the

> greater

> > scheme of truth.

>

> Ha ha ha ha! What an astonishing statement! I would not say

that to

> anyone, no matter how their beliefs did not speak to me, or

seemed

> to me to be a waste. One thing I do know, Truth is greater than

my

> personal perception and experience; that's a Blessing. Deity

has a

> sense of humor, and I personally find it helpful to cultivate one

> myself.

>

> I mean no offense to you; you must be in serious distress or

feeling

> backed into some corner I could not perceive to attack another

so...

> And of course, what really bothers you isn't in eternalwytch1 or

> anyone else at all, it is more personal to you.

>

> > That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard in my life.

>

> How amazingly rude and judgemental of you.

>

> Do you know yet what is bothering you?