Guest guest Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 "Shiva and Shakti are the same, Like musk and its fragrance Or gold and its luster." -- Sant Jnaneshvar Shiva without Shakti is a corpse. And I suppose Shakti without Shiva is a ghost. It takes two, I think. Both immanent and transcendant. Just because we Shaktas are more drawn to the Mother, doesn't mean that we reject the Father. I was told that Ramakrishna sat with sandal powder in one hand, and excrement in the other, and would touch each with his tongue. (Yuck.) These stories seem to have a lot invested in portraying Ramakrishna as coprophilic. -- Len/ Kalipadma On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:17:21 -0000 "omprem" <omprem writes: > > > Who knows if the stories attributed to supposedly highly-evolved > spiritual leaders are real or apocryphal. > > Your story of Ramakrishna seems a bit too over the top to be > believed. Why would he find it necessary to sit by the Ganges > with a handful of shit and the other hand full of money and find it > necessary to ponder the relative worth of both? Was his intellect > so dense that he could only use this graphic means to arrive at > the conclusion that neither was more or less important or > desirable than the other and that in the end neither was of any > consequence? <snip> > And more to the point of this thread, how are the methods you > describe any less ascetic than the Shaivite methods? In fact, I > would say that the Shaitvite methodology is almost libertine. ______________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Well, using shit is a good way to test yourself to see how you are doing at not drawing false distinctions between one thing and another... And also to get to see clearly how others draw false distinctions, getting so embroiled in the icky details of the experiment that they fail completely to see the value of the practice. One physical test like this is worth a thousand verbal exchanges in theory! The reactions of people towards the exercise says a very great deal about them... These exercises would be of no value to a coprophiliac, just as the Panchamakar would be of no value to a alcoholic, meat-eating lecher. Lilith M. --- kalipadma wrote: > > "Shiva and Shakti are the same, > Like musk and its fragrance > Or gold and its luster." > -- Sant Jnaneshvar > > I was told that Ramakrishna sat with sandal powder > in one hand, and > excrement in the other, and would touch each with > his tongue. (Yuck.) > These stories seem to have a lot invested in > portraying Ramakrishna as > coprophilic. > > -- Len/ Kalipadma _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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