Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 4:48:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time, ouranian writes: > That is a good question. Here are my top 5 not a very systematic list > or approach but they will provide good information: > > 1. Tripura Rahasya Tantra > 2. The World as Power (J. Woodruff) > 3. Devi Gita > 4. Tantra The Path of Ecstasy (G. Feurstein) > 5. Shakti the Power in Tantra (R. Tigunait) Thanks. I wish I could find them at the library however and doubt I can. Right now I do the internet cuz it's free. Our finances and I have been waiting til I can afford to go to the dentist myself, after our daughter gets her fillings done, new glasses, and ... the breaks are going on the car, the dryer needs to be fixed ( I'll bet you think I'm making this up. ) Not to fear however. Another list member shared a web site with me off-list, and it's going to take me a while to browse through that. Actually, when I was younger, back in college, I did read some books by Eastern Gurus. One in particular was called "Meditation" by Mouni Sadhu. I can't remember what the other titles were. I know they were not Tantra or Shakti books -- just Hindu authors. Those books sound interesting and I'm going to check Amazon.com and if they have them, I'll put them on my "wish list" -- and maybe when the holiday rolls around I can splurge and get myself one of them for starters. Blessings, Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hi Cathie A certain amount of misunderstanding is bound to happen in this sort of communication forum. I understand the feeling of being slightly (or very) disoriented when trying to understand Hinduism/Tantra as a Westerner. I'm curious to know if you are reading anyting offline as introductory material. There is a plethora of material out there. I'm sure Devi Bhakta, Kochu and others would be willing to give you a couple of titles. ~SE101 , SophiasHeaven@a... wrote: > In a message dated 10/6/2004 10:31:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > kochu1tz writes: > > > i am afraid of posting because my language is straight. It is taken as > > insulting by some westerners. > > > > I have seen enough "by design" that i try to look at motives. The > > commonality of what is spoken in Europe does not mean there are equivalents in > > Sanskrit. > > Thanks for explaining this Kochu. > It's hard to pick up such things as language skills sometimes on e- mail cuz > one cannot Hear whether a person has an accent. > > Of course it is not fair that everyone speaks english -- which is a second > langauge for some, and the only language for others. > > I know there is all sort of "by design" on the internet, but still I suspect > that those actively participating in this group, are here "by design" to learn > as well as to share. > > Maybe it seems frustrating to somebody to whom all these things seem > familiar, when another one from another culture tries to make sense of it all and > thinks they are doing pretty well, and instead they are getting it all wrong. I'm > sure it's frustrating to be constantly having to clear up confusion. Endless > Questions. The concerns of a foreign culture such as American ( and > has surely been instrumental in attracting large numbers of Americans to > your group, most of whom (myself included ) are extremely clueless about Hindu > culture, so that at every turn it is easy to get something wrong, very easy, > cuz one doesn't recognize where the flaws in thinking are.) -- the concerns of > a foreigh culture that is so different. > > Still, I have always had a great respect for India, and an intrigue, and I > suppose this is true of many who are here who are Americans, lurking quietly in > the shadows. > > Indeed, my husband lost all his overtime pay, and we are now struggling > financially due to his company having recently shipped many of it's jobs over sees > to India. > > Recently, I got a call from a business that was a survey to ask me how the > service was. The woman who made the call had a slightly detectible and unusual > accent. I'm used to hearing Spanish accent around these parts and I am > familiar with German accent and a few others, but this was different. It wasn't > until near the end of the call that I realized and thought to myself: "this woman > is talking to me from India" ( from a call center in India ). When I > realized this I felt a little silenced with awe. Of course long distance is > expensive and I could not afford an expensive call to India even if I knew somebody to > call in India ( and one time I tried to call a guru in India but it was the > wrong time of day and I got an answering machine and decided it was too > expensive and gave up ). I cannot afford to travel to India and I thought to myself, > how I could have made better use of my time on the phone, and at least asked > "so, How is the Weather over there?" the way people in my country are always > making small-talk about the weather. Or, "So, where in India are you calling > from ? What city?" I got the feeling the woman felt proud like she was doing > a good job and speaking english very well and that maybe I didn't even > realize she was calling me from India, and I felt a kind of silence come from her as > well, like the one I was feeling. > > And so, we have not much knowledge of one another, and yet here we are, all > in one space, trying to be respectful ( most of us anyways and even the ones > who complain I feel do so from concerns that are very real to them in their > hearts ), yet SO curious. So wanting to make some contact with this other culture > we know nothing about yet with whom our fates are entangled. > > Blessings of the Goddess, > Cathie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 6:20:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, ouranian writes: > Hi Cathie > > Well good luck to you with your situation. I'll add you to my > prayer/good wishes list. I do know there is a sight where you can > read the Tripura Rahasya online. I can't find the link off hand. > Perhaps someone else on the list has it handy? > > Yes Amazon is great you maybe able to find some of the titles used > for $10 or under. Happy Hunting > > ~SE101 > > Thanks. That would be interesting, even though I don't know what the Tripura Rahasya IS ;-) Actually, I can't sit for very long at my computer, as I have a chronic clotting condition that has wreaked havoc in my left leg, and recently it clotted up again above the knee. The leg has been filled from hip to ankle with clot -- the circulation is poor, and if I sit here too long, it will clot MORE again instead of Clearing out the clot that just grew. I have a way to slouch at my computer and prop my feet up on the top of the desk, to read websites and such which is actually EASIER than typing, but just at present Oh My Achin Back is Killin me from slouching here too much this past week, so it will probably be a few days before I get to any extensive reading on the net. Blessings, Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 7:08:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, devi_bhakta writes: > > Hi Cathie: > > C'mon ... lack of cash is no excuse! Check in our Files section (see > menu at left) -- we have Shakti and Shakta by Sir John Woodroffe, one > of the greatest primers ever on the subject, if you're serious. Devi > Mahatmyam is on the homepage, Saundarya Lahari and Lalita Sahasranama > are also in Files. And much more! So read all you like, and we'll all > pray for your finances to flow with all your needs. (Lakshmi's > specialty by the way.) > > Good time to read too. Our perception is keener when times are hard. > > DB Thanks for the encouragement Devi. I do feel like my mind has been feeling clear to read lately. That's why I turned the messages back on for this group -- I have read some of your files before the last time i took a break from the net for a while, and they are EXTENSIVE... Thanks for the boot ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > [sunelectric101 wrote:] > > [....] I understand the feeling of being > slightly (or very) disoriented when trying to understand > Hinduism/Tantra as a Westerner. > [....] > I'm sure Devi Bhakta, Kochu and others > would be willing to give you a > couple of titles. Good topic! I've seen DB's list on Amazon.com and the longer bibliography in the "database" section of this list....and thank you, DB, for constructing those. If you (group moderators or other knowledgeable members of the group) were to recommend a "first five things to read" to a new (Western) group member who is not knowledgeable about Hinduism, what would those five things be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 That is a good question. Here are my top 5 not a very systematic list or approach but they will provide good information: 1. Tripura Rahasya Tantra 2. The World as Power (J. Woodruff) 3. Devi Gita 4. Tantra The Path of Ecstasy (G. Feurstein) 5. Shakti the Power in Tantra (R. Tigunait) , "msbauju" <msbauju> wrote: > > > > [sunelectric101 wrote:] > > > > [....] I understand the feeling of being > > slightly (or very) disoriented when trying to understand > > Hinduism/Tantra as a Westerner. > > [....] > > I'm sure Devi Bhakta, Kochu and others > > would be willing to give you a > > couple of titles. > > Good topic! > > I've seen DB's list on Amazon.com and the longer bibliography in > the "database" section of this list....and thank you, DB, for > constructing those. > > If you (group moderators or other knowledgeable members of the group) > were to recommend a "first five things to read" to a new (Western) > group member who is not knowledgeable about Hinduism, what would > those five things be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hi Cathie Well good luck to you with your situation. I'll add you to my prayer/good wishes list. I do know there is a sight where you can read the Tripura Rahasya online. I can't find the link off hand. Perhaps someone else on the list has it handy? Yes Amazon is great you maybe able to find some of the titles used for $10 or under. Happy Hunting ~SE101 , SophiasHeaven@a... wrote: > In a message dated 10/7/2004 4:48:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > ouranian@l... writes: > > > That is a good question. Here are my top 5 not a very systematic list > > or approach but they will provide good information: > > > > 1. Tripura Rahasya Tantra > > 2. The World as Power (J. Woodruff) > > 3. Devi Gita > > 4. Tantra The Path of Ecstasy (G. Feurstein) > > 5. Shakti the Power in Tantra (R. Tigunait) > > Thanks. I wish I could find them at the library however and doubt I can. > Right now I do the internet cuz it's free. Our finances and I have been waiting > til I can afford to go to the dentist myself, after our daughter gets her > fillings done, new glasses, and ... the breaks are going on the car, the dryer > needs to be fixed ( I'll bet you think I'm making this up. ) > > Not to fear however. Another list member shared a web site with me off-list, > and it's going to take me a while to browse through that. > > Actually, when I was younger, back in college, I did read some books by > Eastern Gurus. One in particular was called "Meditation" by Mouni Sadhu. I can't > remember what the other titles were. I know they were not Tantra or Shakti > books -- just Hindu authors. > > Those books sound interesting and I'm going to check Amazon.com and if they > have them, I'll put them on my "wish list" -- and maybe when the holiday rolls > around I can splurge and get myself one of them for starters. > > Blessings, > Cathie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 http://sss.vn.ua/tripura1.htm - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hi Cathie: C'mon ... lack of cash is no excuse! Check in our Files section (see menu at left) -- we have Shakti and Shakta by Sir John Woodroffe, one of the greatest primers ever on the subject, if you're serious. Devi Mahatmyam is on the homepage, Saundarya Lahari and Lalita Sahasranama are also in Files. And much more! So read all you like, and we'll all pray for your finances to flow with all your needs. (Lakshmi's specialty by the way.) Good time to read too. Our perception is keener when times are hard. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 >Good time to read too. Our perception is keener when times are hard. > >DB > Now that IS something I know something about. *grins* It is nice to see that there are people that know their psychology on the list. I am dealing with some rough times too, perhaps I need to do the same. Silly me though...I get so caught up with other things in my life that I forget how to channel my anxieties and depression in a more positive manner. Now I am worried - I am majoring in Psychology and I STILL have problems dealing with my problems...*laughs at her silliness* Sorry, went a tad off subject...but I second Devi Bhakta's suggestion. We tend to remember things better when a certain emotion is strong. Blessings, _______________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 I have already recommended the "Aghora:At the Left Hand of God" trilogy by Robert Svoboda. Anything by Robert Svoboda is good because he speaks both English and Sanskrit. To understand Indian thought you must understand its mythology, so one must be up on the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, the Shrimad Bhagavatam, to name a few, I am sure our Indian friends can come up with others to add to the list. Without a grounding in the mythology, most of the spirituality of India will remain obscure to you. You might also wish to check out The Ten Mahavidyas by David Kingsley, as well as his book on Hindu Goddesses. Anything on Ramakrishna you can find is good..The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" would be a good start. That should be enuf to keep you busy for a while!!! Lilith M. --- msbauju <msbauju wrote: > > > > [sunelectric101 wrote:] > > > > [....] I understand the feeling of being > > slightly (or very) disoriented when trying to > understand > > Hinduism/Tantra as a Westerner. > > [....] > > I'm sure Devi Bhakta, Kochu and others > > would be willing to give you a > > couple of titles. > > Good topic! > > I've seen DB's list on Amazon.com and the longer > bibliography in > the "database" section of this list....and thank > you, DB, for > constructing those. > > If you (group moderators or other knowledgeable > members of the group) > were to recommend a "first five things to read" to a > new (Western) > group member who is not knowledgeable about > Hinduism, what would > those five things be? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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