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Amen to this !!!

I hate to be so blunt, doctors have a very limited body of knowledge and

yet as you point out, are elevated to the status of Priests. Yet they disdain

the spiritual body -- at least the American doctors do not trouble with that

realm and disacknowledge it--

Regarding the eating of meat, I cannot speak as an expert on what

Hinduism advises or on how other people feel from dietary changes, but in this

past year I made a big move in the direction of giving up meat and eating as

much

raw foods, avoiding cooked foods, avoiding cheese, andI felt such a

tremendous LEAP in energy.

I began to feel like a New Person. I feel more aware than ever in my

life ( of course the sungazing it helping me with that ). I feel it

Profoundly affected me.

Then I got so energetic I overdid it and made my leg clot. Two

spiritual advisors both said the same thing independent of one another, that it

was a

"healing crisis" --

But due to my good diet and proper rest, it is clearing out faster

than it did on prior occasions...

I'm still working on balancing my tendency to be alittle bit too

easily excited, and the sungazing helps with that, too.

 

Btw, Speaking of the Body and Spiritual Awareness of How the Body Works, Does

Hinduism apply meanings to things like Blood. I heard in another spiritual

system, Blood is Liquid Emotion. And left leg is "clarity" --

 

Does blood have a meaning in Hinduism? Is there meaning ascribed to

different parts of the body, besides the Yoni and the Chakras?

 

I guess I better go look up the word Kosha and figure out what that means...

 

Blessings,

Cathie

In a message dated 10/11/2004 9:26:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

omprem writes:

> Your beloved medical science is actually quite ignorant on how

> the human body works, and on its interdependent relationship

> with the other koshas that comprise a person.

>

> For example, it is only this year that the Nobel Prize for Medicine

> was given ot a couple of medical scientists for their work in

> detailing how it is that we are able to smell odours. Of course, in

> investigating the olfactory process, they missed entirely the

> relationship between nasal breathing and the ida and pingala

> nadis.

>

> Another example, medical science has as yet no clear

> awareness of why we yawn. But occultist and mystics know that

> there are 5 major pranas and 5 minor pranas. One of the 5

> minor pranas, Devadatta, is responsible for yawninng. The

> question becomes, "Why out of all the operations of the

> so-called body is yawning considered to be one of the top 10

> operations?". Observation leads to postulate that yawning is

> associated with a change of consciousness (and not always

> from awake to asleep).

>

> Medical science knows almost nothing about the human body. It

> is only lately that medical science has reinstituted the practise of

> applying leeches to wounds.

>

> Medical science/ nutrition only looks at diet from their limited

> view of the physical. It does not factor in the effect of diet on the

> gunas or the doshas, either the ayurvedic doshas or the doshas

> as 'defect'. It does not factor in the effect of diet on prana

> formation, on the movement of prana or on the functioning of the

> nadis.

>

> Medical science does not consider the ethical implications of

> what we eat. Perhaps there would be fewer meat eaters if they

> actually had to kill the animals/birds/fish themselves. Also, the

> terror of animals that are about to be slaughtered, has animpact

> on their cellular memory, filling that memory with fear. We ingest

> that fear with the meat. So, in the name of ahimsa towards

> others and ourselves, we should not eat meat. But medical

> science is completely oblivious to this fundamental fact.

>

> Medical science is so backward still, it does not deserve its

> recent elevation to godlike status.

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 10/11/2004 9:26:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

omprem writes:

> Medical science/ nutrition only looks at diet from their limited

> view of the physical. It does not factor in the effect of diet on the

> gunas or the doshas, either the ayurvedic doshas or the doshas

> as 'defect'. It does not factor in the effect of diet on prana

> formation, on the movement of prana or on the functioning of the

> nadis.

>

 

I'm sorry I didn't think of saying this in the first reply, but another

factor is not simply that one eats meat, but HOW POLLUTED THE MEAT SUPPLY IS

WITH

DRUGS SUCH AS ARTIFICIAL HORMONES, AND ANTIBIOTICS

They give the chickens growth hormone so they grow plenty of breast

meat.

The chickens grow so fast their breast area is so big they are

crippled by 7 weeks and sometimes so bad they just stumble out of their cages.

It's not a simple question anymore, of whether to eat meat based on

that alone, one has to consider what they DO to degrade the animals.

It's SICK.

Turkeys can't even mate naturally but have to be artificially

inseminated cuz they give the turkeys hormone to make themhave abnormally large

breast

meat as well.

 

Peace,

Cathie

 

 

 

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The food topics have became interesting in the past few days...I guess I

will add my silly rambles, hehe.

 

I still eat meat, but not as much as I used to. However, I can see why many

people do not eat meat period and almost became a vegetarian because of the

hormone shooting they do to much of the stock. I think they have cut down

on that, but either way, I do plan to let the no-meat feel come to me

naturally. *tried to force it before and that did not work out well* There

are also certain meats that I utterly refuse to eat (i.e., veal; I am sorry,

but "tenderizing" a baby calf and not even letting it enjoy the fields

before its death is going too far.)

 

I guess you can call me a semi-vegetarian. I only give my body the amount

of meat that it wants and for some reason, I rarely crave red meats at all.

I used to be okay with eating meat regularly, but it is slowly losing its

taste for whatever reasons (I lost my taste for most white breads before

hand). Again though - it is kind of a coincidence that I stepped on that

stage of eating habits; it happened sometime around joining this group. I

do not think it makes me superior or anything, I just noticed my eating

habits, the vegetarian and meat-eating topics, and the timing of it all. :)

 

People wonder why they are "adapting" to the effects of antibiotics - for

the exact reason that you mentioned. My finances do not allow me to

purchase a strictly organic fridge, but I try to buy organic products

whenever I can because of all the chemicals they inject in our foods.

Unfortunately, the general American public do not care for these kind of

facts; if they did, the so-called free market would serve as an advantage in

the food industry.

 

Okay, enough of my endless rambles...hehe...just sharing my experiences.

For the most part, though - even though I am not a vegetarian myself, I have

respect for anyone who has the body (and discipline) to keep on such a diet.

While I am not on the same wagon, I understand why it is there.

 

 

Blessed be,

>SophiasHeaven

>

>

>Re: Re: regarding First five Sadhana practices -

>essential n...

>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:15:16 EDT

>

>In a message dated 10/11/2004 9:26:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

>omprem writes:

>

> > Medical science/ nutrition only looks at diet from their limited

> > view of the physical. It does not factor in the effect of diet on the

> > gunas or the doshas, either the ayurvedic doshas or the doshas

> > as 'defect'. It does not factor in the effect of diet on prana

> > formation, on the movement of prana or on the functioning of the

> > nadis.

> >

>

>I'm sorry I didn't think of saying this in the first reply, but another

>factor is not simply that one eats meat, but HOW POLLUTED THE MEAT SUPPLY

>IS WITH

>DRUGS SUCH AS ARTIFICIAL HORMONES, AND ANTIBIOTICS

> They give the chickens growth hormone so they grow plenty of breast

>meat.

> The chickens grow so fast their breast area is so big they are

>crippled by 7 weeks and sometimes so bad they just stumble out of their

>cages.

> It's not a simple question anymore, of whether to eat meat based on

>that alone, one has to consider what they DO to degrade the animals.

> It's SICK.

> Turkeys can't even mate naturally but have to be artificially

>inseminated cuz they give the turkeys hormone to make themhave abnormally

>large breast

>meat as well.

>

>Peace,

>Cathie

>

>

>

>

 

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