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" I'm sorry I didn't think of saying this in the first reply, but another

factor is not simply that one eats meat, but HOW POLLUTED

THE MEAT SUPPLY IS WITH DRUGS SUCH AS ARTIFICIAL

HORMONES, AND ANTIBIOTICS"

 

 

Thanks. I too forgot about this very important point.

 

That also brings up the idea of organically grown produce

instead of those factory farmed, genetically altered 'foods' that

are on the shelves of our supermarkets.

 

Omprem

 

, SophiasHeaven@a...

wrote:

> In a message dated 10/11/2004 9:26:16 AM Mountain Daylight

Time,

> omprem writes:

>

> > Medical science/ nutrition only looks at diet from their limited

> > view of the physical. It does not factor in the effect of diet on

the

> > gunas or the doshas, either the ayurvedic doshas or the

doshas

> > as 'defect'. It does not factor in the effect of diet on prana

> > formation, on the movement of prana or on the functioning of

the

> > nadis.

> >

>

> I'm sorry I didn't think of saying this in the first reply, but another

> factor is not simply that one eats meat, but HOW POLLUTED

THE MEAT SUPPLY IS WITH

> DRUGS SUCH AS ARTIFICIAL HORMONES, AND

ANTIBIOTICS

> They give the chickens growth hormone so they grow

plenty of breast

> meat.

> The chickens grow so fast their breast area is so big they

are

> crippled by 7 weeks and sometimes so bad they just stumble

out of their cages.

> It's not a simple question anymore, of whether to eat meat

based on

> that alone, one has to consider what they DO to degrade the

animals.

> It's SICK.

> Turkeys can't even mate naturally but have to be artificially

> inseminated cuz they give the turkeys hormone to make

themhave abnormally large breast

> meat as well.

>

> Peace,

> Cathie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

93

 

, SophiasHeaven@a... wrote:

> I'm sorry I didn't think of saying this in the first reply, but

another factor is not simply that one eats meat, but HOW POLLUTED THE

MEAT SUPPLY IS WITH DRUGS SUCH AS ARTIFICIAL HORMONES, AND ANTIBIOTICS

 

This is true. From the point of health it is indeed good not to eat

meat.

The point i raised was different. Firstly, meat is used in RITUAL

context of Tantra and hinduism. Secondly, keeping meat away DOESN`T by

itself make u spiritual, as well as eating it.

 

A.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/12/2004 8:50:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

bhagatirtha writes:

> 93

>

> No doubt that there exists a market of drugs etc. However this doesn`t

> change the fact that now medical science (and science in general) is

> far more advanced than in medieval period.

> What yogis [maybe] can do - parakaya-pravesha - is not a scientific

> phenomenon thus it proves nothing. Objective science deal with matter,

> nothing else.

> BTW i believe u cannot DEMONSTRATE parkaya-pravesha-siddhi or cannot

> make shava to raise up ...

 

I don't see medical science as an entirely objective thing, nor science

ingeneral.

Yes there are objective elements to it.

But look at any scientific study and there are always "statistics" -- and

what do the statistics say? If you have a mental illness, take this drug

because

it will help you, which is objective and not always true Only 50% are

helped. If 50% are helped according to the study, they make a blanket

statement

you MUST take the drug or youwill not get better. In fact, even genetics is not

clear cut. for instance, there are genes that predispose a person for a

certain condition. A gene has been identified as being linked and causative, for

instance, of schizophrenia. However, only 50% of the people with that gene ever

develop symptoms of the disease.

 

so, to me, science and so called "objective" facts are only 50% of the

equation. that leaves a pretty big 50% of other factors remaining. Is the

other

50% spiritual? To be sure it is as least a part -- a very important part, imho.