Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 These are some posts i found at , not my view so dont' ask me for justification: *********************************** To:: "shivam_param" <shivam_paramDate:Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:52:01 -0000Subject: GuhyaKali--The secret aspect of Mother Kali [input] [input] [input] [input] Dear All, The Devi Kali has many forms. Kashmir Shaivism speaks of twelve Kalis, while in other parts of India she is and was worshipped as Mahakali, Dakshina Kalika, Shmashanakali, Bhadrakali, Kamakali, and Guhyakali, amongst many others. The Guhyakalika section (khanda) of Mahakalasamhita is a voluminous work, comprising many thousands of shlokas (verses) and with Guhyakalika (Secret Kalika) as its focus. But the work also covers a number of other tantrik topics in equally great detail, and along the way also includes subjects rarely referred to in other published tantras. The work follows the usual tantrik formula, with Mahakala answering questions posed to him by his spouse, Kali. Mahakala opens the Guhyakali section of the Mahakalasamhita by saying he will reveal the mantra, yantras, meditation forms (dhyana and rules of worship relating to Guhyakali, which, he says, have been previously hidden. There are eighteen Guhyakali mantras, he says. Guhyakali, he says, has forms with 100, 60, 36, 30, 20, 10, five, three, two and one faces. Different mantras correspond to these different forms, which he then reveals, using the usual codes for the different letters of the Sanskrit alphabet employed in other tantras. Mahakala starts to talk about Guhyakali when she is on her lion seat (simhasana), and gives meditations for the guardians of the directions (dikpala), and the five great corpses, forms of Shiva, upon which she sits. There is a sixth pitha, Bhairava. He is described as black in colour, with four arms, terrifying and the cause of fear. He has five faces, each with three eyes. In his left hands he holds a skull staff khatvanga and scissors, and in his right a skull and the hourglass shaped damaru. He is adorned with a garland of skulls, and is fanged. Lying, on an eight petalled lotus above Bhairava is a two-armed form of Shiva, clothed in tiger skin and holding a skull-staff and a trident. The four petals of the major directions represent dharma (duty), jnana (knowledge), vairagya (dispassion) and aishvarya (dominion). The 10-faced form of Guhyakali is then described. She has 27 eyes, with some faces having two, and other three, eyes. Each of her faces represents a different female animal aspect of Guhyakali and is of a different hue. For example, her upper face is called Dvipika (a leopard or possibly a panther), then comes Keshari (a lion) which is white, Pheru ( jackal) which is black, then Vanara (a monkey) which is red, Riksha (a bear) which is purple, Nara (a woman) which is of a cochineal colour, Garuda which tawny, Makara (a crocodile) which is turmeric colour (yellow), Gaja (elephant) which is of a golden colour, and Haya (horse) which is of a dark or dusky (shyama) colour. The human face is on Guhyakali's shoulders. To the left of that face is the crocodile, above that the horse and above that the bear. To the right of her face is the Garuda, the elephant, and the monkey. On the top of her head is the monkey face, above that the lioness face, and above that the leopardess. Guhyakali's human face has great, fierce sharp fangs, she laughs very loudly, while streams of blood pour from her mouth. She has a rolling tongue and is adorned with garlands of skulls, with earrings also of skulls. The mother of the universe (jagadambika) has 54 arms each of which holds a weapon. Her right hands hold a jewelled rosary, a skull, a shield, a noose, a shakti missile, a skull-staff, a bhushundi weapon, a bow, a discus, a bell, a young corpse, a mongoose (?), a rock, a man's skeleton, a bamboo stave, a serpent, a plough, a fire hearth, a damaru, an iron mace, a small spear (bhindipala -- it could mean a sling), a hammer, a spear, a barbed hook, a club studded with metal nails (shataghni). Her right hands hold a jewelled rosary, scissors, make the gestures (mudra) of threatening, a goad, a danda, a jewelled pot, a trident, five arrows and so forth. In the same work there is a nyasa specifically for the 10 faces of this form of the goddess. Here, the faces are related to the 1,000 petalled lotus, the mouth, the right eye, the left eye, the right nostril, the left nostril, the right cheek, the left cheek, the right ear and the left ear. Guhyakali has three major forms, corresponding to creation, maintenance and destruction, a little like a very much darker form of Tripurasundari. Chapter five of the Guhyakalikhanda describes 18 yantras of the Devi, corresponding to the 18 separate mantras mentioned earlier. The first consists of a bindu, a triangle, a hexagon, a pentagon, a circle, 16 petals, eight petals and four doors, adorned with tridents and skulls. This relates to Guhyakali's one letter mantra, which is Phrem (see above left). Guhyakali dwells within the centre of eight cremation grounds (shmashans), whose names are Mahaghora, Kaladanda, Jvalakula, Chandapasha, Kapalika, Dhumakula, Bhimangara, and Bhutanatha. Her worship honours the Vetalas (vampires), eight tridents, vajras, jackals and corpses, Bhairavas, dakinis, Chamundas, Kshetrapalas, Ganapatis and other denizens of the cremation ground. Yours yogically, Dattu Jay Gurudev one more below ************************************************************ To:"ISSPList" <>, "Mantra_Tantra_Yantra_Group" <mantra_tantra_yantra>, "Narayan_Dutt_Shrimali_Group" <narayan_dutt_shrimali>"Tantra Shakti" <tantra_shakti Add to Address BookDate:Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT)Kali, The Supreme PowerTantra views the whole universe as a composite of the quiescent transcendent, Shiv and the kinetic verb of creation, Shakti. In tantra, Kali, one of the esoteric manifestations of Shakti, is considered the supreme power. Kali is the first and foremost of the ten mahavidyas. Kali worship is the doorway of the mysterious world of tantra. Primarily, there are nine forms of Kali - Dakshin Kali, Bhadra Kali, Shmashan Kali, Kaal Kali, Guhya Kali, Kamkala Kali, Dhan Kali, Siddhi Kali and Chand Kali. Kali is also worshiped as Chintamani Kali, Sparshmani Kali, Santatiprada Kali, Hans Kali, Maha Kali and Maha Maya. Kali has a unique appearance. Those who do not understand actual meaning of her appearance may find her horrific and terrible. She is black because everything ends in her. She is naked because she is nature and devoid of all coverings of illusion. Her ear rings are made of corpses of two children which means she always listens to the child in us. She wears a garland of fifty freshly severed, human heads which represent the fifty alphabets of Sanskrit language and thus, represent knowledge. The blood, dripping from those heads, represents creative force of nature. She wears a girdle of human hands which emphasizes the importance of accumulated deeds for salvation. She has four hands. In her lower left hand, she holds a freshly severed head symbolizing the annihilation of evil forces. In her upper left hand, she carries the sword of physical extermination with which she cuts the thread of bondages. Her right hands gesture to dispel fear and grant strength. Kali is the wife of Lord Shiv, the destroyer. She destroys everything so that the new can be created. She brings death to life so that the life in death can continue. She also kills miseries and misfortunes of her worshipers freeing them from the cycle of life and death. In Sanskrit, Kali is the feminine form of the word for Time. Thus, she is eternal. May God bless you all with perfect health and happiness. Ashish... narayan_dutt_shrimali mantra_tantra_yantra ******************************************************************************mo\ re********** ****************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dear TN , Yes I have ordered for this and some other kali shashtras but have not heard the interpretation given on her image as in earlier in the post .That is why I wanted to learn how it was arrived at ? Anybody has other input on Maa scriptures ???? Thank you for all your asisstance friends ,SS is till the best networking group I have been a member with ................... Jai Maa!!! p/s ; Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji's Tantra Mantra Vigyan do not make reference to scriptural base for their assertion as well . T N <yogiman2003 wrote: These are some posts i found at , not my view so dont' ask me for justification: *********************************** To:: "shivam_param" <shivam_paramDate:Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:52:01 -0000Subject: GuhyaKali--The secret aspect of Mother Kali [input] [input] [input] [input] Dear All, The Devi Kali has many forms. Kashmir Shaivism speaks of twelve Kalis, while in other parts of India she is and was worshipped as Mahakali, Dakshina Kalika, Shmashanakali, Bhadrakali, Kamakali, and Guhyakali, amongst many others. The Guhyakalika section (khanda) of Mahakalasamhita is a voluminous work, comprising many thousands of shlokas (verses) and with Guhyakalika (Secret Kalika) as its focus. But the work also covers a number of other tantrik topics in equally great detail, and along the way also includes subjects rarely referred to in other published tantras. The work follows the usual tantrik formula, with Mahakala answering questions posed to him by his spouse, Kali. Mahakala opens the Guhyakali section of the Mahakalasamhita by saying he will reveal the mantra, yantras, meditation forms (dhyana and rules of worship relating to Guhyakali, which, he says, have been previously hidden. There are eighteen Guhyakali mantras, he says. Guhyakali, he says, has forms with 100, 60, 36, 30, 20, 10, five, three, two and one faces. Different mantras correspond to these different forms, which he then reveals, using the usual codes for the different letters of the Sanskrit alphabet employed in other tantras. Mahakala starts to talk about Guhyakali when she is on her lion seat (simhasana), and gives meditations for the guardians of the directions (dikpala), and the five great corpses, forms of Shiva, upon which she sits. There is a sixth pitha, Bhairava. He is described as black in colour, with four arms, terrifying and the cause of fear. He has five faces, each with three eyes. In his left hands he holds a skull staff khatvanga and scissors, and in his right a skull and the hourglass shaped damaru. He is adorned with a garland of skulls, and is fanged. Lying, on an eight petalled lotus above Bhairava is a two-armed form of Shiva, clothed in tiger skin and holding a skull-staff and a trident. The four petals of the major directions represent dharma (duty), jnana (knowledge), vairagya (dispassion) and aishvarya (dominion). The 10-faced form of Guhyakali is then described. She has 27 eyes, with some faces having two, and other three, eyes. Each of her faces represents a different female animal aspect of Guhyakali and is of a different hue. For example, her upper face is called Dvipika (a leopard or possibly a panther), then comes Keshari (a lion) which is white, Pheru ( jackal) which is black, then Vanara (a monkey) which is red, Riksha (a bear) which is purple, Nara (a woman) which is of a cochineal colour, Garuda which tawny, Makara (a crocodile) which is turmeric colour (yellow), Gaja (elephant) which is of a golden colour, and Haya (horse) which is of a dark or dusky (shyama) colour. The human face is on Guhyakali's shoulders. To the left of that face is the crocodile, above that the horse and above that the bear. To the right of her face is the Garuda, the elephant, and the monkey. On the top of her head is the monkey face, above that the lioness face, and above that the leopardess. Guhyakali's human face has great, fierce sharp fangs, she laughs very loudly, while streams of blood pour from her mouth. She has a rolling tongue and is adorned with garlands of skulls, with earrings also of skulls. The mother of the universe (jagadambika) has 54 arms each of which holds a weapon. Her right hands hold a jewelled rosary, a skull, a shield, a noose, a shakti missile, a skull-staff, a bhushundi weapon, a bow, a discus, a bell, a young corpse, a mongoose (?), a rock, a man's skeleton, a bamboo stave, a serpent, a plough, a fire hearth, a damaru, an iron mace, a small spear (bhindipala -- it could mean a sling), a hammer, a spear, a barbed hook, a club studded with metal nails (shataghni). Her right hands hold a jewelled rosary, scissors, make the gestures (mudra) of threatening, a goad, a danda, a jewelled pot, a trident, five arrows and so forth. In the same work there is a nyasa specifically for the 10 faces of this form of the goddess. Here, the faces are related to the 1,000 petalled lotus, the mouth, the right eye, the left eye, the right nostril, the left nostril, the right cheek, the left cheek, the right ear and the left ear. Guhyakali has three major forms, corresponding to creation, maintenance and destruction, a little like a very much darker form of Tripurasundari. Chapter five of the Guhyakalikhanda describes 18 yantras of the Devi, corresponding to the 18 separate mantras mentioned earlier. The first consists of a bindu, a triangle, a hexagon, a pentagon, a circle, 16 petals, eight petals and four doors, adorned with tridents and skulls. This relates to Guhyakali's one letter mantra, which is Phrem (see above left). Guhyakali dwells within the centre of eight cremation grounds (shmashans), whose names are Mahaghora, Kaladanda, Jvalakula, Chandapasha, Kapalika, Dhumakula, Bhimangara, and Bhutanatha. Her worship honours the Vetalas (vampires), eight tridents, vajras, jackals and corpses, Bhairavas, dakinis, Chamundas, Kshetrapalas, Ganapatis and other denizens of the cremation ground. Yours yogically, Dattu Jay Gurudev one more below ************************************************************ To:"ISSPList" <>, "Mantra_Tantra_Yantra_Group" <mantra_tantra_yantra>, "Narayan_Dutt_Shrimali_Group" <narayan_dutt_shrimali>"Tantra Shakti" <tantra_shakti Add to Address BookDate:Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:58:11 -0700 (PDT)Kali, The Supreme PowerTantra views the whole universe as a composite of the quiescent transcendent, Shiv and the kinetic verb of creation, Shakti. In tantra, Kali, one of the esoteric manifestations of Shakti, is considered the supreme power. Kali is the first and foremost of the ten mahavidyas. Kali worship is the doorway of the mysterious world of tantra. Primarily, there are nine forms of Kali - Dakshin Kali, Bhadra Kali, Shmashan Kali, Kaal Kali, Guhya Kali, Kamkala Kali, Dhan Kali, Siddhi Kali and Chand Kali. Kali is also worshiped as Chintamani Kali, Sparshmani Kali, Santatiprada Kali, Hans Kali, Maha Kali and Maha Maya. Kali has a unique appearance. Those who do not understand actual meaning of her appearance may find her horrific and terrible. She is black because everything ends in her. She is naked because she is nature and devoid of all coverings of illusion. Her ear rings are made of corpses of two children which means she always listens to the child in us. She wears a garland of fifty freshly severed, human heads which represent the fifty alphabets of Sanskrit language and thus, represent knowledge. The blood, dripping from those heads, represents creative force of nature. She wears a girdle of human hands which emphasizes the importance of accumulated deeds for salvation. She has four hands. In her lower left hand, she holds a freshly severed head symbolizing the annihilation of evil forces. In her upper left hand, she carries the sword of physical extermination with which she cuts the thread of bondages. Her right hands gesture to dispel fear and grant strength. Kali is the wife of Lord Shiv, the destroyer. She destroys everything so that the new can be created. She brings death to life so that the life in death can continue. She also kills miseries and misfortunes of her worshipers freeing them from the cycle of life and death. In Sanskrit, Kali is the feminine form of the word for Time. Thus, she is eternal. May God bless you all with perfect health and happiness. Ashish... narayan_dutt_shrimali mantra_tantra_yantra ******************************************************************************mo\ re********** ****************************************** / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dear Arjuna, Well put and thank you for your feedback . I asked because I only knew of Varnamala of Arthur Avalon and have not heard of any other interpretation Thank you for all your input ............... Jai Maa!!! Arjuna Taradasa <bhagatirtha wrote: 93 Greetings. What was written by "malyavan_tibet" about sculls is obvious nonsense. Yes there exists an interpretation that sculls are representing matrika; however i`m unsure whether it is based on Scripture. But rather possible, `coz Devi as Kundalini is Matrika-shakti. Sculls may represent souls of those who devoted theirselves to Her. Also not from Scripture - just my guess. Concerning why Kalika stands on Shiva (NOT mere "shava" ) there is story in Nirvana-tantra (cited elsewhere as well). Of course it has nothing to do with kali-yuga. However numerous sourses state that Kali (along with Tara) is in fact dominant among Mahavidyas in kali-yuga. A. , kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002> wrote: > Recently I have heard various interpretation of the images of Kali and wondering how was this arrived at . Is it form one's lineage , guru of tradition ,or from relevant scriptures ,experience or word of mouth ....................... > > Would learned members here enlighten me, the point of reference for such an interpretation below > > Jai Maa !! > > > malyavan_tibet <malyavan_tibet> wrote: > > > The skulls does not stand for the sanskrit alphabet. Each of the skull > represent the memory from a previous incarnation. > > Kali is not dancing over shiva, kali is dancing over shava. It > represents the uncontrolled sound indicative of the present age > "Kali" Yuga. > > > > > Interesting that Kali has a string of male heads on her necklace, each > > representing a letter of the sanskrit alphabet. > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > vote. - Register online to vote today! > > / vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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