Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 I wonder if somebody might feel inspired to explain at least a little bit more than this here below, excerpted from a yoga site, on what is the difference and the connection between Kundalini and Prana: > Kundalini has connection with subtle Prana. Subtle Prana has connection > with the subtle Nadis and Chakras. Subtle Nadis have connection with the mind. > Mind has connection all through the body. You have heard that there is mind in > every cell of the body. Prana is the working force of the body. It is > dynamic. > > > After Kundalini is awakened, Prana passes upwards through Brahma Nadi along > with mind and Agni. > > http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm#_VPID_56 Blessings and Peace, Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the pranas that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your teacher and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a way that you understand. Omprem , SophiasHeaven@a... wrote: > I wonder if somebody might feel inspired to explain at least a little bit > more than this here below, excerpted from a yoga site, on what is the > difference and the connection between Kundalini and Prana: > > > Kundalini has connection with subtle Prana. Subtle Prana has connection > > with the subtle Nadis and Chakras. Subtle Nadis have connection with the mind. > > Mind has connection all through the body. You have heard that there is mind in > > every cell of the body. Prana is the working force of the body. It is > > dynamic. > > > > > > > After Kundalini is awakened, Prana passes upwards through Brahma Nadi along > > with mind and Agni. > > > > > http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm#_VPID_ 56 > > > Blessings and Peace, > Cathie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 In a message dated 10/18/2004 10:17:00 AM Mountain Daylight Time, omprem writes: > Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the pranas > that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your teacher > and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a way > that you understand. > > > Omprem Thanks Omprem. Interesting about the Kundalini and the Prana. Peace, Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 omprem wrote: > > Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the pranas > that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your teacher > and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a way > that you understand. Yogis are not in agreement when explaining the difference between kundalini and prana so how do you know the one and only truth? Lars > > > Omprem > > > > , SophiasHeaven@a... > wrote: > > I wonder if somebody might feel inspired to explain at least a > little bit > > more than this here below, excerpted from a yoga site, on what > is the > > difference and the connection between Kundalini and Prana: > > > > > Kundalini has connection with subtle Prana. Subtle Prana > has connection > > > with the subtle Nadis and Chakras. Subtle Nadis have > connection with the mind. > > > Mind has connection all through the body. You have heard > that there is mind in > > > every cell of the body. Prana is the working force of the body. > It is > > > dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > > After Kundalini is awakened, Prana passes upwards through > Brahma Nadi along > > > with mind and Agni. > > > > > > > > > http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm#_VPID_ > 56 > > > > > > Blessings and Peace, > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > * Sponsor* > > click here > <http://us.ard./SIG=129ttjgtf/M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176/D=groups\ /S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1098202505/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www.orchard\ bank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> > > > > ------ > * Links* > > * > / > > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 In a message dated 10/18/2004 5:27:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time, lars writes: > omprem wrote: > > > > >Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the pranas > >that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your teacher > >and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a way > >that you understand. > > > Yogis are not in agreement when explaining the difference between > kundalini and prana so how do you know the one and only truth? > > Lars Why are you so cricital? Why must everyone attack Omprem? This answer makes sense to me from an intuitive level, it sounds good to me. Omprem didn't say this is the one and only "truth" -- he's only answering my question, and rather graciously, at that. I appreciate this answer, and can't see why you should attack it. If you have a different explanation of Kundalini and Prana, please offer it for consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 I think that you are mistaken on that. Could you give me an example of a Yoga who does not know the mechanics of Kundalini formation as sketched below? Kundalini is prana. From the Yogic viewpoint, there is one prana, but when it comes to the human body, prana that performs a specialized function is given a specific name. There are 5 major pranas (Prana, Apana, Samana, Udana and Vyana) and 5 minor pranas (Naga, Kurma, Kirkara, Devadatta, and Dhanajaya). The major pranas known as Prana and Apana flow through the Ida and Pingala nadis and are also known as Ha and Tha. The aim of Raja Yoga practices is to unite Ha and Tha (Prana and Apana). When this occurs, that combined prana performs a specialized function and is then given the name, Kundalini. Omprem , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > > omprem wrote: > > > > > Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the pranas > > that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your teacher > > and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a way > > that you understand. > > > Yogis are not in agreement when explaining the difference between > kundalini and prana so how do you know the one and only truth? > > Lars > > > > > > > > > > Omprem > > > > > > > > , SophiasHeaven@a... > > wrote: > > > I wonder if somebody might feel inspired to explain at least a > > little bit > > > more than this here below, excerpted from a yoga site, on what > > is the > > > difference and the connection between Kundalini and Prana: > > > > > > > Kundalini has connection with subtle Prana. Subtle Prana > > has connection > > > > with the subtle Nadis and Chakras. Subtle Nadis have > > connection with the mind. > > > > Mind has connection all through the body. You have heard > > that there is mind in > > > > every cell of the body. Prana is the working force of the body. > > It is > > > > dynamic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After Kundalini is awakened, Prana passes upwards through > > Brahma Nadi along > > > > with mind and Agni. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sivanandadlshq.org/download/kundalini.htm#_VPID_ > > 56 > > > > > > > > > Blessings and Peace, > > > Cathie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Sponsor* > > > > click here > > <http://us.ard./SIG=129ttjgtf/M=315388.5500238.6578 046.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1098202505/A =2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www.orchardbank.com/h cs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> > > > > > > > > ------ > > * Links* > > > > * > > / > > > > * > > > > <?subj ect=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 I asked my teacher and she said it has to do with the sympathetic and para- sympathetic: para-sympathetic nervous system involves the ganglia bundles in the cranial-sacral region ( head and back bone down to the pelvis on the posterior side ) and the sympathetic involves ganglia bundles in the thoracic and lumbar region of the body (thoracic is chest between head and abdomen on either side of the spinal column ). I have an anatomical picture of the veins in the body, and there is one main vein, or Vena Cava that runs along the spine extending up into the brain (Cranial sacral) and then there are four main vein branches that come off the main spinal column vein, and these four extend 2 into the arms and 2 into the legs and I assume this is related to the path of the nerves as well... and the division of pranas listed below... In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:20:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time, omprem writes: > Kundalini is prana. From the Yogic viewpoint, there is one prana, > but when it comes to the human body, prana that performs a > specialized function is given a specific name. There are 5 major > pranas (Prana, Apana, Samana, Udana and Vyana) and 5 minor > pranas (Naga, Kurma, Kirkara, Devadatta, and Dhanajaya). The > major pranas known as Prana and Apana flow through the Ida > and Pingala nadis and are also known as Ha and Tha. The aim > of Raja Yoga practices is to unite Ha and Tha (Prana and > Apana). When this occurs, that combined prana performs a > specialized function and is then given the name, Kundalini. > > Omprem > > > > > >omprem wrote: > > > >> > >>Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the > pranas > >>that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your > teacher > >>and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a > way > >>that you understand. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 SophiasHeaven wrote: > > Why are you so cricital? > Why must everyone attack Omprem? Because he has an all-knowing attitude. An attitude I personally find improper for a yogateacher. I think his attitude can be an obstacle for his development. And also an obstacle when learning from other yogapractitioners. He ought to be more humble. Perhaps something I also must learn. Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 The human body has its structure because of the structure of the pranamaya kosha. Nerve plexii and the endocrine glands correspond with chakras, nerves correspond with nadis, DNA shape corresponds to Ida-Pingala. But correspondence is not identity. The physical body (annamaya kosha) has correspondences and linkages to the pranamaya kosha but there is no identity. That is, while a particular nerve plexus may correlate with a chakra, the chakra is different and more than the nerve plexus. Omprem , SophiasHeaven@a... wrote: > I asked my teacher and she said it has to do with the sympathetic and para- > sympathetic: para-sympathetic nervous system involves the ganglia bundles in > the cranial-sacral region ( head and back bone down to the pelvis on the > posterior side ) and the sympathetic involves ganglia bundles in the thoracic and > lumbar region of the body (thoracic is chest between head and abdomen on either > side of the spinal column ). I have an anatomical picture of the veins in the > body, and there is one main vein, or Vena Cava that runs along the spine > extending up into the brain (Cranial sacral) and then there are four main vein > branches that come off the main spinal column vein, and these four extend 2 into > the arms and 2 into the legs and I assume this is related to the path of the > nerves as well... and the division of pranas listed below... > > In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:20:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > omprem writes: > > > Kundalini is prana. From the Yogic viewpoint, there is one prana, > > but when it comes to the human body, prana that performs a > > specialized function is given a specific name. There are 5 major > > pranas (Prana, Apana, Samana, Udana and Vyana) and 5 minor > > pranas (Naga, Kurma, Kirkara, Devadatta, and Dhanajaya). The > > major pranas known as Prana and Apana flow through the Ida > > and Pingala nadis and are also known as Ha and Tha. The aim > > of Raja Yoga practices is to unite Ha and Tha (Prana and > > Apana). When this occurs, that combined prana performs a > > specialized function and is then given the name, Kundalini. > > > > Omprem > > > > > > > > > >omprem wrote: > > > > > >> > > >>Kundalini is subtle Prana. It is formed by redirecting the > > pranas > > >>that flow in the Ida and Pingala nadis. Go back to your > > teacher > > >>and have her explain these nadis and their operation in a > > way > > >>that you understand. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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