Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dear K.K. Good. It is true, there are many of them out there. I find the very simplest one, the downwards pointing one of five red triangles layered one on top of the other was the one I used. But I am not fussy. When I see one of the others, I say to myself, "Oh, there is Ma Kali in a different aspect! Jai Ma!" One could also pray to Her to send you one...just adopt the next one that pops up in front of you (no matter where!)after you make this prayer. I once heard of someone who received his mantra when he was accidentally kicked by a saint emerging from bathing in the Ganges before sunrise. The saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! and that person took that as his own mantra, and attained! It is an excellent sadhana to paint one's own yantra to use for meditation, too! Lilith M. --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 wrote: > Lilith M, > > Thank you for your advise but then there are variuos > Kali yantra which would you suggest ?( Pleaes check > Kali scriptures or tradition out there) > > As you suggested I would not ask but pray to Her to > enlighten me ...................... > > Daring is not an issue because I love her > ................ > > But then again my question is still not obtained > it's answer................... > > Jai Maa!!! > Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > The very best way to understand the Kali image is to > meditate on Her yantra, and ask Kali Herself what it > all means!(If you dare!) > Lilith M. _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Thank you Lili, Yes we could do that but also we need to be aware in each Kali yantra there are different devatas (deities) sitting on them at different point before the centre is resided by the Supreme Devi Kali herself . There is a slight difference between 5 triangle with 8 petals circled by another circle with another big triangle on top of it all before the 4 doored bhupura is closed as compared to the same structure minus the final triangle on top of it(before the bhupura closing) .Like below ; dakshina kali yantra - http://www.shivashakti.com/kaliyan.htm dakshina kali yantra - http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~mikel/sriyantra/sri2.html So which is the choice would according to which scripture was my question ? Other kali yantra for your viewing ; syama kali yantra - http://www.exoticindia.com/product/DC68 kali maha vidya yantra - http://www.sics.se/~piak/yoga/yantra/ mahakali yantra - http://www.saatwik.com/remedies/yantra/mahakali-yantra.html Chamunda devi Yantra - http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ramakrishna/kali.html I wish things were easier as the someone you mentioned in the story .Another story- the future to be saint could not say Rama so he said it backward Mara ! Mara ! and still attained Rama . But I am no saint my friend. Of course pure love to towards Supreme could also work but I dare not claim I have purest love for HER . All I know my dear is I love Her and willing to find anyway that could get closer to Her . Like the new boyfriend who goes around asking the girls phone number and what she like to eat ,wear etc.etc. I am trying to learn things in it s proper perpective( might be orthodox but a cleared path) rather that just picking one and worshipping because I really want to understand the yantra that I have choosen . So I could visualize it and internalize it with proper understanding . I love her so much that I want really try to understand her ............. But I would agree Her divine will would prevade end of the day and I can only love Her to the best of my ability.The rest I surrender ........................ Thank you for your input on this Jai Maa!!!! Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: Dear K.K. Good. It is true, there are many of them out there. I find the very simplest one, the downwards pointing one of five red triangles layered one on top of the other was the one I used. But I am not fussy. When I see one of the others, I say to myself, "Oh, there is Ma Kali in a different aspect! Jai Ma!" One could also pray to Her to send you one...just adopt the next one that pops up in front of you (no matter where!)after you make this prayer. I once heard of someone who received his mantra when he was accidentally kicked by a saint emerging from bathing in the Ganges before sunrise. The saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! and that person took that as his own mantra, and attained! It is an excellent sadhana to paint one's own yantra to use for meditation, too! Lilith M. --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 wrote: > Lilith M, > > Thank you for your advise but then there are variuos > Kali yantra which would you suggest ?( Pleaes check > Kali scriptures or tradition out there) > > As you suggested I would not ask but pray to Her to > enlighten me ...................... > > Daring is not an issue because I love her > ................ > > But then again my question is still not obtained > it's answer................... > > Jai Maa!!! > Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > The very best way to understand the Kali image is to > meditate on Her yantra, and ask Kali Herself what it > all means!(If you dare!) > Lilith M. _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 To be perfectly frank, I have never studied any scriptures. Maybe a bit of the Upanishads...I picked this Yantra, painted it myself, and prayed to it, and got results. If one is ignorant of the attributions of the Yantra, but directs sincere devotion at it, God takes care of the details..so few people, relatively speaking, care about God with any level of sincerity in the Kali Yuga, that anyone who DOES have it gets FAST results..God rushes right there to them! At least that's how it worked for me.I have the Master Vimalananda to thank for this knowledge. I bow to him as my guru! Lilith M. --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 wrote: > Thank you Lili, > > Yes we could do that but also we need to be aware in > each Kali yantra there are different devatas > (deities) sitting on them at different point before > the centre is resided by the Supreme Devi Kali > herself . There is a slight difference between 5 > triangle with 8 petals circled by another circle > with another big triangle on top of it all before > the 4 doored bhupura is closed as compared to the > same structure minus the final triangle on top of > it(before the bhupura closing) .Like below ; > > dakshina kali yantra - > http://www.shivashakti.com/kaliyan.htm > > dakshina kali yantra - > http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~mikel/sriyantra/sri2.html > > So which is the choice would according to which > scripture was my question ? > > Other kali yantra for your viewing ; > > > syama kali yantra - > http://www.exoticindia.com/product/DC68 > > kali maha vidya yantra - > http://www.sics.se/~piak/yoga/yantra/ > > mahakali yantra - > http://www.saatwik.com/remedies/yantra/mahakali-yantra.html > > Chamunda devi Yantra - > http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ramakrishna/kali.html > > I wish things were easier as the someone you > mentioned in the story .Another story- the future to > be saint could not say Rama so he said it backward > Mara ! Mara ! and still attained Rama . But I am no > saint my friend. > > Of course pure love to towards Supreme could also > work but I dare not claim I have purest love for HER > . All I know my dear is I love Her and willing to > find anyway that could get closer to Her . Like the > new boyfriend who goes around asking the girls phone > number and what she like to eat ,wear etc.etc. > > > I am trying to learn things in it s proper > perpective( might be orthodox but a cleared path) > rather that just picking one and worshipping because > I really want to understand the yantra that I have > choosen . So I could visualize it and internalize it > with proper understanding . I love her so much that > I want really try to understand her ............. > > But I would agree Her divine will would prevade end > of the day and I can only love Her to the best of my > ability.The rest I surrender > ........................ > > Thank you for your input on this > > > Jai Maa!!!! > > Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > > Dear K.K. > Good. It is true, there are many of them out > there. > I find the very simplest one, the downwards pointing > one of five red triangles layered one on top of the > other was the one I used. But I am not fussy. When I > see one of the others, I say to myself, "Oh, there > is > Ma Kali in a different aspect! Jai Ma!" One could > also > pray to Her to send you one...just adopt the next > one > that pops up in front of you (no matter where!)after > you make this prayer. I once heard of someone who > received his mantra when he was accidentally kicked > by > a saint emerging from bathing in the Ganges before > sunrise. The saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! > and > that person took that as his own mantra, and > attained! > It is an excellent sadhana to paint one's own yantra > to use for meditation, too! > Lilith M. > --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 > wrote: > > > Lilith M, > > > > Thank you for your advise but then there are > variuos > > Kali yantra which would you suggest ?( Pleaes > check > > Kali scriptures or tradition out there) > > > > As you suggested I would not ask but pray to Her > to > > enlighten me ...................... > > > > Daring is not an issue because I love her > > ................ > > > > But then again my question is still not obtained > > it's answer................... > > > > Jai Maa!!! > > Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > > The very best way to understand the Kali image is > to > > meditate on Her yantra, and ask Kali Herself what > it > > all means!(If you dare!) > > Lilith M. > > > > > _______________________________ > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote. > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Dear Lili, I happy for you . If you know anybody who knows the detail of yantra atrribution please let me know........ Thank you anyway ......................... Jai Maa !!! Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: To be perfectly frank, I have never studied any scriptures. Maybe a bit of the Upanishads...I picked this Yantra, painted it myself, and prayed to it, and got results. If one is ignorant of the attributions of the Yantra, but directs sincere devotion at it, God takes care of the details..so few people, relatively speaking, care about God with any level of sincerity in the Kali Yuga, that anyone who DOES have it gets FAST results..God rushes right there to them! At least that's how it worked for me.I have the Master Vimalananda to thank for this knowledge. I bow to him as my guru! Lilith M. --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 wrote: > Thank you Lili, > > Yes we could do that but also we need to be aware in > each Kali yantra there are different devatas > (deities) sitting on them at different point before > the centre is resided by the Supreme Devi Kali > herself . There is a slight difference between 5 > triangle with 8 petals circled by another circle > with another big triangle on top of it all before > the 4 doored bhupura is closed as compared to the > same structure minus the final triangle on top of > it(before the bhupura closing) .Like below ; > > dakshina kali yantra - > http://www.shivashakti.com/kaliyan.htm > > dakshina kali yantra - > http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~mikel/sriyantra/sri2.html > > So which is the choice would according to which > scripture was my question ? > > Other kali yantra for your viewing ; > > > syama kali yantra - > http://www.exoticindia.com/product/DC68 > > kali maha vidya yantra - > http://www.sics.se/~piak/yoga/yantra/ > > mahakali yantra - > http://www.saatwik.com/remedies/yantra/mahakali-yantra.html > > Chamunda devi Yantra - > http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ramakrishna/kali.html > > I wish things were easier as the someone you > mentioned in the story .Another story- the future to > be saint could not say Rama so he said it backward > Mara ! Mara ! and still attained Rama . But I am no > saint my friend. > > Of course pure love to towards Supreme could also > work but I dare not claim I have purest love for HER > . All I know my dear is I love Her and willing to > find anyway that could get closer to Her . Like the > new boyfriend who goes around asking the girls phone > number and what she like to eat ,wear etc.etc. > > > I am trying to learn things in it s proper > perpective( might be orthodox but a cleared path) > rather that just picking one and worshipping because > I really want to understand the yantra that I have > choosen . So I could visualize it and internalize it > with proper understanding . I love her so much that > I want really try to understand her ............. > > But I would agree Her divine will would prevade end > of the day and I can only love Her to the best of my > ability.The rest I surrender > ........................ > > Thank you for your input on this > > > Jai Maa!!!! > > Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > > Dear K.K. > Good. It is true, there are many of them out > there. > I find the very simplest one, the downwards pointing > one of five red triangles layered one on top of the > other was the one I used. But I am not fussy. When I > see one of the others, I say to myself, "Oh, there > is > Ma Kali in a different aspect! Jai Ma!" One could > also > pray to Her to send you one...just adopt the next > one > that pops up in front of you (no matter where!)after > you make this prayer. I once heard of someone who > received his mantra when he was accidentally kicked > by > a saint emerging from bathing in the Ganges before > sunrise. The saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! > and > that person took that as his own mantra, and > attained! > It is an excellent sadhana to paint one's own yantra > to use for meditation, too! > Lilith M. > --- kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 > wrote: > > > Lilith M, > > > > Thank you for your advise but then there are > variuos > > Kali yantra which would you suggest ?( Pleaes > check > > Kali scriptures or tradition out there) > > > > As you suggested I would not ask but pray to Her > to > > enlighten me ...................... > > > > Daring is not an issue because I love her > > ................ > > > > But then again my question is still not obtained > > it's answer................... > > > > Jai Maa!!! > > Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > > The very best way to understand the Kali image is > to > > meditate on Her yantra, and ask Kali Herself what > it > > all means!(If you dare!) > > Lilith M. > > > > > _______________________________ > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote. > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. 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Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 93 , kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002> wrote: > dakshina kali yantra - http://alumni.cse.ucsc.edu/~mikel/sriyantra/ sri2.html This one is the basic. However as i was taught colors are to be put different. http://www.sics.se/~piak/yoga/yantra/ - approximately like here in Kali-yantra, but 3rd triangle is of course black while circles and petals simply red on black background. The variant with 3 triangles in center is perhars a mistake - no shastric or oral evidence in it`s support i`d ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Pranam, Liliji. *I once heard of someone who received his mantra when he was accidentally kicked by a saint emerging from bathing in the Ganges before sunrise. The saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! and that person took that as his own mantra, and attained!* That person was the the poet Kabir and the saint is Ramanand. Just to let you know.... With Love Shankaree Let my every word be a prayer to Thee, Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Thee, Every step I take a circumambulation of Thy image, Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Thee, Every time I lay down a prostration at Thy feet; Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I do, Let it all be a form of worshiping Thee." >From Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's Saundaryalahari ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Yes, that's who it was. I couldn't recall the name for the life of me! Lilith M. --- shankaree ramatas <shankaree wrote: > Pranam, Liliji. > > *I once heard of someone who received his mantra > when he was accidentally kicked by a saint emerging > from bathing in the Ganges before sunrise. The > saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! and that > person took that as his own mantra, and attained!* > > That person was the the poet Kabir and the saint is > Ramanand. Just to let you know.... > > > > With Love > > Shankaree > Let my every word be a prayer to Thee, > Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Thee, > > Every step I take a circumambulation of Thy image, > Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Thee, > Every time I lay down a prostration at Thy feet; > Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I > do, > Let it all be a form of worshiping Thee." > > From Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's > Saundaryalahari > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even > more fun! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Yes, that's who it was. I couldn't recall the name for the life of me! Lilith M. --- shankaree ramatas <shankaree wrote: > Pranam, Liliji. > > *I once heard of someone who received his mantra > when he was accidentally kicked by a saint emerging > from bathing in the Ganges before sunrise. The > saint, startled, exclaimed "Ram Ram"! and that > person took that as his own mantra, and attained!* > > That person was the the poet Kabir and the saint is > Ramanand. Just to let you know.... > > > > With Love > > Shankaree > Let my every word be a prayer to Thee, > Every movement of my hands a ritual gesture to Thee, > > Every step I take a circumambulation of Thy image, > Every morsel I eat a rite of sacrifice to Thee, > Every time I lay down a prostration at Thy feet; > Every act of personal pleasure and all else that I > do, > Let it all be a form of worshiping Thee." > > From Verse 27 of Shri Aadi Shankara's > Saundaryalahari > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even > more fun! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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