[SS] Kali Yuga - Devotion the most popular but least understood !!!

October 21, 2004

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Dear KK, if one has pure love, he needs not anything more indeed.

However the problem arises that practically it is difficult to live

constantly on that level, thus necessity of spiritual practice.

Also don`t think West is unaware of bhakti-yoga . There are no less

detailed accounts on this matter by christian saints. As well as by A.

Crowley for example - "Liber Astarte".

Love is the law, love under will.

A.

, kanna krishnan

<kanna_krishnan2002> wrote:

> Dear Lili,

>

> You declared ;

>

> I see the signs everywhere. This is why I encourage people

> to get right with God through devotion, not through

> long drawn-out circuitous methods.

>

> Pleaes allow me to share :

>

> The Devi Khadgala Mala , Sri Vidya and other worship are not long

drawn -out circuitous methods they are the very thing that create the

devotion you claim . The western concept of devotion is about only

about the FEELING love and it stops there but in Hinduism bhakthi

yoga has it's own scripture like Narada Bakthi Sutra ,Sandilya sutra

and so forth to show the methodological step to achive them . In BG ,

Krishna said offer anything with devotion and He would accept it . But

he did not say anything is devotion. Even devotion has various steps

to achieve them ( please read text like Srimad Bhavagavatham)Then

again there is para and apara bhakthi as well ....

>

> The popular notion today is to say I have devotion and love for God

and that is it . But only bonafide master ( guru) from proper

parampara ( lineage of spiritual teaching) can guide the practioner in

the ocean of multituides of spritual practices.Just look at

Ramakrishna though he talked about Supreme devotion how many orthodox

guru he learnt from ,yet somebody just read the english version of the

Gospel ( which reduce and sensored the actual bengal copy written by

M) an says the feeling I love God suffice ............ This what I

call book-knowledge .....

>

> Please dont assume merely saying I have devotion is devotion. In

western culture I love you is the word the child saying before kissing

the mom on the cheek while going to school . In eastern culture the

word I love you takes a lot of courage and commitment before it is

said and that is also not done frequently because the word has such a

high connotation.

>

> Everything has an intricate approach in any religious system not

only hinduism and only devoted would spent time practicing

circuitous methods and the more we practice the more our yearning for

Her develop. So we actually dont find it circuitous but on contrary it

is adventurous !!!

> It is not long ardous activity for the lover who waits for his lover

to use the road he is waiting, it actually creates more yearning in

his heart.Sri Vidya upasana and others methodlogical approach are such

and people who have no yearning for God would not even touch them.....

......fror them it is mystical and symbolical only !

>

> Kudos!!!, to SS moderators for sharing Devi Khadgamala and Swami

Amritaji for sharing what we are learning ,truly the years to come we

would find hard to find such a commitment share this paractices to new

members as shown here ...........

>

> And as for those who are thinking bhakthi is just devotion to God

as I understand it ,well Hindusim offers what experience bhaktas like

Narada and Sandilya says about this.

>

> Just like what they say repharaphrased here -if you dont like then

leave but try first before you judge ................

>

> Jai Maa!!

>

> Everytime DKMS

>

> Lili Masamura <sephirah5> wrote:

> I have done a great deal of meditation on the topic,

> and i think that perhaps at one time Kali Yugas may

> have taken this long, but now, with our speeded up

> sense of time, I believe that Kali Yuga has progressed

> to the point that it will be much much shorter now.

> Maybe when we were all animals and plants it would

> take 432,000 years. Now, I am personally convinced we

> can expect the Ghora (Fearsome) Yuga in about 10

> years. The tenth(?) Avatar of Vishnu, Nishkalanka or

> Kalki, the White Horse Avatar, is in the offing. I see

> the signs everywhere. This is why I encourage people

> to get right with God through devotion, not through

> long drawn-out circuitous methods. God is never so

> accessible at any other time as He/She is during Kali

> Yuga.

> Lilith M.

> --- Detective_Mongo_Phd

> <detective_mongo_phd@h...> wrote:

>

> > Kali Yuga just having started will certainly

> > manifest spirituality into a

> > material or evidential creed of various practices

> > utilizing science

> > eventually. There's 432,000 years left.

> >

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October 21, 2004

Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

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> Love is the law, love under will.

>

Why not will under love?

What is a fan of Aleister Crowley doing here if I may ask?

I have also studied Crowley but left him and occultism as I wanted to

reach longer.

Regards

Lars

October 22, 2004

What is a fan of Aleister Crowley doing here if I may ask?

I have also studied Crowley but left him and occultism as I wanted to

reach longer.

Regards

Lars

----But Crowley did after all give everything to his cause, that is, to publish

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October 22, 2004

Is it true that he died as an drug-addict?

Regards

Lars

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> Regards

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> Lars

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> ----But Crowley did after all give everything to his cause, that is,

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October 22, 2004

Yeah, ridin that horse to the end.

-

Lars Hedström

Friday, October 22, 2004 3:05 AM

Re: Re: [sS] Kali Yuga - Devotion the most popular

but least understood !!!

Is it true that he died as an drug-addict?

Regards

Lars

Detective_Mongo_Phd wrote:

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> What is a fan of Aleister Crowley doing here if I may ask?

>

> I have also studied Crowley but left him and occultism as I wanted to

> reach longer.

>

> Regards

>

> Lars

>

> ----But Crowley did after all give everything to his cause, that is,

> to publish his Equinox, and he gave them away at a small fraction of

> the price. He died in poverty. You see that Frater Perdurabo after all

> gave everything one could obstensibly say, to the Mother Goddess Sri

> Kundalini who loves sacrifice. or tapas.

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October 23, 2004

, Lars Hedström <lars@2...>

wrote:

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> Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

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> >

> > Love is the law, love under will.

> >

>

> Why not will under love?<<

There is a famous quotation from the Fifth Century (a.d.):

"DILIGE & QUOD VIS FAC" which englishes as

"Love and do what you will."

This quote is attributed to Augustine, Bishop of Hippo.

http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/augustine.htm

October 23, 2004

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, "nekkid99" <nekkid99>

wrote:

>

> There is a famous quotation from the Fifth Century (a.d.):

> "DILIGE & QUOD VIS FAC" which englishes as

> "Love and do what you will."

> This quote is attributed to Augustine, Bishop of Hippo.

>

> http://www.btinternet.com/~glynhughes/squashed/augustine.htm

I know . Perhaps he was the first one who forsaw thelemic Law.

October 24, 2004

Dear Arjuna ,

Yes what is there a need for anything else for one with such a pure love !!! You

are right ......

I did not mean westerners per se but only western culture as it is today .Off

course eastern way of living is not better of either right now .........

That is why bonafide guru is of importance I say . Especially in today's world

!!!

Jai Maa!!!

Arjuna Taradasa <bhagatirtha wrote: