Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 93 What`s the problem with U, man? Time to go to phsycologist... What is the reason U are so troubled by what i write - even not to U? Be aware of Ur own ego reactions before putting blame on somebody and judging with such authority. By Ur post U proved that at least U know no yoga - that what U supposedly are teaching . I never said i`m a vessel of higher knowledge - and i do not teach people as "master". When some utter nonsense is preached here in the name of Tantra or Yoga, it`s needed to be corrected. If U have no shame to teach what U know not, what else to do... If we had held a discussion under medieval indian rules, U would have become my disciple already )). Time changed and here U may go to spitting in my back until it is bared by moderators. I may know love or know not - it is not connected with U. The fact itself that U judge in such manner shows that U indeed MAY know not. However this i won`t say. U proved Ur ignorance in certain matters. And enough stubborness to reject Ur failure. But U may be loving someone, U still may love God. I wish it is so, `coz that is the most essential thing in our life. There is no problem that U don`t know something. Just better if U don`t preach or argue till get proper understanding Urself. But this knowledge is not necessary for salvation. Seek God, and He may reveal Himself. Then all these will become insignificant. God bless U. , "omprem" <omprem> wrote: > > "Not more than Tantra is LOL" > > You are a friggin ignoramous. You love to use LOL to demean > people and to lay claim to higher knowledge. But you have no > higher knowledge. You have no lower knowledge. You are an > insecure leech who likes to prey on others and convince them > that you know more than you do. In actuality, you are a moron. > > You talk about love but demonstrate that you know nothing > about love and feel nothing about love. Your words demonstrate > that you are estranged from yourself and your world . Your > pretensions are pathetic but your insistence shows your > desire to rise above your current limitations. > > "how is it possible that subtle physical energies give birth to > power of Consciousness?" > > This lack of knowledge is behind all of your posts. You need to > seek a Guru to dispell your veil of ignorance on trhis subject. > Do more sadhana so that your intellect and mind become > clearer and stronger and so that your psychology becomes less > obstinate and combative and more open and exploratory. > > > Omprem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Friends: I will not have ANYONE fighting each other. The problems in the past arose because the moderators did not put their feet down. I have decided that any post that attacks an individual will not pass. You can strongly speak of one's convictions. Thats allowable. Personal fights NO!! Will those who agree with me raise their hands? Kochu Arjuna Taradasa <bhagatirtha wrote: 93 What`s the problem with U, man? Time to go to phsycologist... What is the reason U are so troubled by what i write - even not to U? Be aware of Ur own ego reactions before putting blame on somebody and judging with such authority. By Ur post U proved that at least U know no yoga - that what U supposedly are teaching . I never said i`m a vessel of higher knowledge - and i do not teach people as "master". When some utter nonsense is preached here in the name of Tantra or Yoga, it`s needed to be corrected. If U have no shame to teach what U know not, what else to do... If we had held a discussion under medieval indian rules, U would have become my disciple already )). Time changed and here U may go to spitting in my back until it is bared by moderators. I may know love or know not - it is not connected with U. The fact itself that U judge in such manner shows that U indeed MAY know not. However this i won`t say. U proved Ur ignorance in certain matters. And enough stubborness to reject Ur failure. But U may be loving someone, U still may love God. I wish it is so, `coz that is the most essential thing in our life. There is no problem that U don`t know something. Just better if U don`t preach or argue till get proper understanding Urself. But this knowledge is not necessary for salvation. Seek God, and He may reveal Himself. Then all these will become insignificant. God bless U. , "omprem" <omprem> wrote: > > "Not more than Tantra is LOL" > > You are a friggin ignoramous. You love to use LOL to demean > people and to lay claim to higher knowledge. But you have no > higher knowledge. You have no lower knowledge. You are an > insecure leech who likes to prey on others and convince them > that you know more than you do. In actuality, you are a moron. > > You talk about love but demonstrate that you know nothing > about love and feel nothing about love. Your words demonstrate > that you are estranged from yourself and your world . Your > pretensions are pathetic but your insistence shows your > desire to rise above your current limitations. > > "how is it possible that subtle physical energies give birth to > power of Consciousness?" > > This lack of knowledge is behind all of your posts. You need to > seek a Guru to dispell your veil of ignorance on trhis subject. > Do more sadhana so that your intellect and mind become > clearer and stronger and so that your psychology becomes less > obstinate and combative and more open and exploratory. > > > Omprem Sponsor Will you help a needy child? ·It only costs .60¢ a day · It's easier than you think.·Click here to meet a waiting child you can sponsor now. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 In a message dated 10/23/2004 3:18:23 AM Mountain Daylight Time, kochu1tz writes: > Friends: > I will not have ANYONE fighting each other. The problems in the past arose > because the moderators did not put their feet down. I have decided that any > post that attacks an individual will not pass. > You can strongly speak of one's convictions. Thats allowable. Personal > fights NO!! > > Will those who agree with me raise their hands? > > Kochu > I agree. Personal attacks prove nothing. Personal attacks come like course energy through the group, and destabilize everyone. Passionately expressing one's belief is one thing. No other person may validate or devalidate my own belief, no matter how good their argument it. I feel it is insecurity over the need to have another person to validate my own belief that causes me sometimes to feel so threatened that I may lash out. I don't need anybody to validate my belief, and when I post my belief on a subject and disagree, it is up to me to decide how much time effort and passion I wish to put into explaining my views better so as to illustrate my belief and the reasons for my belief. Insulting the other person is useless. It doesn't prove anything. And the idea of needing to prove something stems from insecurity over a need for validation. It's easier to give this advice than it is to follow, when I'm feeling threatened and insecure myself. It's time to use some restraint. Measure and weigh our words carefully, and realize even if I choose to NOT further explain my views, it does not invalidate them, nor does any other person have the power to invalidate anyone's belief. Only to disagree and explain, or to remain silent. The only one who may validate my own beliefs, is myself. And attacking another person, will not get the job done either. It sends course energy ripples through the group that I'm sure feel disruptive to others not only myself. When I feel another person getting hurt, I feel it for myself, too. Sometimes it's impossible to be sugar and sweet and nice and rational all the time, but insulting and individual on purpose -- of course on the internet it's possible to have misunderstandings -- but then there is consciously trying to insult another person with name calling and character abuse, which is uncalled for, unecessary, and destructive to everyone present. Jai Ma !!! Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 I agree wholeheartedly and raise my hand(s)! Lars sankara menon wrote: >Friends: >I will not have ANYONE fighting each other. The problems in the past arose because the moderators did not put their feet down. > I have decided that any post that attacks an individual will not pass. >You can strongly speak of one's convictions. Thats allowable. Personal fights NO!! > >Will those who agree with me raise their hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 me too. --- Lars Hedström <lars wrote: > > I agree wholeheartedly and raise my hand(s)! > > Lars > > > > sankara menon wrote: > > >Friends: > >I will not have ANYONE fighting each other. The > problems in the past arose because the moderators > did not put their feet down. > > > I have decided that any post that attacks an > individual will not pass. > > >You can strongly speak of one's convictions. Thats > allowable. Personal fights NO!! > > > >Will those who agree with me raise their hands? > > > > _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 *sighs and raises her hand* I personally am getting weary of the nit-pickiness going on in general. Expressing opinions and correcting people is okay, but then there is the "I know more than thou/I am better than thou/You know nothing" attitude that really bothers me. I will not point fingers, but that is what I am seeing. Again, I am just a newbie who is still learning - it is just hard to do so when people are nitpicking. Blessings, >sankara menon <kochu1tz > > >Re: Re: Kabbalah - to "Omprem" >Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT) > > >Friends: >I will not have ANYONE fighting each other. The problems in the past arose >because the moderators did not put their feet down. I have decided that any >post that attacks an individual will not pass. >You can strongly speak of one's convictions. Thats allowable. Personal >fights NO!! > >Will those who agree with me raise their hands? > >Kochu > >Arjuna Taradasa <bhagatirtha wrote: > >93 > >What`s the problem with U, man? Time to go to phsycologist... >What is the reason U are so troubled by what i write - even not to U? >Be aware of Ur own ego reactions before putting blame on somebody and >judging with such authority. > >By Ur post U proved that at least U know no yoga - that what U >supposedly are teaching . I never said i`m a vessel of higher >knowledge - and i do not teach people as "master". When some utter >nonsense is preached here in the name of Tantra or Yoga, it`s needed >to be corrected. If U have no shame to teach what U know not, what >else to do... > >If we had held a discussion under medieval indian rules, U would have >become my disciple already )). Time changed and here U may go to >spitting in my back until it is bared by moderators. > >I may know love or know not - it is not connected with U. The fact >itself that U judge in such manner shows that U indeed MAY know not. >However this i won`t say. U proved Ur ignorance in certain matters. >And enough stubborness to reject Ur failure. But U may be loving >someone, U still may love God. I wish it is so, `coz that is the most >essential thing in our life. > >There is no problem that U don`t know something. Just better if U >don`t preach or argue till get proper understanding Urself. >But this knowledge is not necessary for salvation. Seek God, and He >may reveal Himself. Then all these will become insignificant. > >God bless U. > > >, "omprem" <omprem> wrote: > > > > "Not more than Tantra is LOL" > > > > You are a friggin ignoramous. You love to use LOL to demean > > people and to lay claim to higher knowledge. But you have no > > higher knowledge. You have no lower knowledge. You are an > > insecure leech who likes to prey on others and convince them > > that you know more than you do. In actuality, you are a moron. > > > > You talk about love but demonstrate that you know nothing > > about love and feel nothing about love. Your words demonstrate > > that you are estranged from yourself and your world . Your > > pretensions are pathetic but your insistence shows your > > desire to rise above your current limitations. > > > > "how is it possible that subtle physical energies give birth to > > power of Consciousness?" > > > > This lack of knowledge is behind all of your posts. You need to > > seek a Guru to dispell your veil of ignorance on trhis subject. > > Do more sadhana so that your intellect and mind become > > clearer and stronger and so that your psychology becomes less > > obstinate and combative and more open and exploratory. > > > > > > Omprem > > > > > Sponsor > Will you help a needy child? >·It only costs .60¢ a day · It's easier than you think.·Click here to meet >a waiting child you can sponsor now. > > > Links > > >/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > _______________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 I agree. NO ONE is higher or lower here. All are seekers. So lets exchange ideas thats the very idea of this Board. lets keep it that way. Anya Mortiis <angelusmortiis wrote: *sighs and raises her hand* I personally am getting weary of the nit-pickiness going on in general. Expressing opinions and correcting people is okay, but then there is the "I know more than thou/I am better than thou/You know nothing" attitude that really bothers me. I will not point fingers, but that is what I am seeing. Again, I am just a newbie who is still learning - it is just hard to do so when people are nitpicking. Blessings, >sankara menon > > >Re: Re: Kabbalah - to "Omprem" >Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT) > > >Friends: >I will not have ANYONE fighting each other. The problems in the past arose >because the moderators did not put their feet down. I have decided that any >post that attacks an individual will not pass. >You can strongly speak of one's convictions. Thats allowable. Personal >fights NO!! > >Will those who agree with me raise their hands? > >Kochu > >Arjuna Taradasa wrote: > >93 > >What`s the problem with U, man? Time to go to phsycologist... >What is the reason U are so troubled by what i write - even not to U? >Be aware of Ur own ego reactions before putting blame on somebody and >judging with such authority. > >By Ur post U proved that at least U know no yoga - that what U >supposedly are teaching . I never said i`m a vessel of higher >knowledge - and i do not teach people as "master". When some utter >nonsense is preached here in the name of Tantra or Yoga, it`s needed >to be corrected. If U have no shame to teach what U know not, what >else to do... > >If we had held a discussion under medieval indian rules, U would have >become my disciple already )). Time changed and here U may go to >spitting in my back until it is bared by moderators. > >I may know love or know not - it is not connected with U. The fact >itself that U judge in such manner shows that U indeed MAY know not. >However this i won`t say. U proved Ur ignorance in certain matters. >And enough stubborness to reject Ur failure. But U may be loving >someone, U still may love God. I wish it is so, `coz that is the most >essential thing in our life. > >There is no problem that U don`t know something. Just better if U >don`t preach or argue till get proper understanding Urself. >But this knowledge is not necessary for salvation. Seek God, and He >may reveal Himself. Then all these will become insignificant. > >God bless U. > > >, "omprem" wrote: > > > > "Not more than Tantra is LOL" > > > > You are a friggin ignoramous. You love to use LOL to demean > > people and to lay claim to higher knowledge. But you have no > > higher knowledge. You have no lower knowledge. You are an > > insecure leech who likes to prey on others and convince them > > that you know more than you do. In actuality, you are a moron. > > > > You talk about love but demonstrate that you know nothing > > about love and feel nothing about love. Your words demonstrate > > that you are estranged from yourself and your world . Your > > pretensions are pathetic but your insistence shows your > > desire to rise above your current limitations. > > > > "how is it possible that subtle physical energies give birth to > > power of Consciousness?" > > > > This lack of knowledge is behind all of your posts. You need to > > seek a Guru to dispell your veil of ignorance on trhis subject. > > Do more sadhana so that your intellect and mind become > > clearer and stronger and so that your psychology becomes less > > obstinate and combative and more open and exploratory. > > > > > > Omprem > > > > > Sponsor > Will you help a needy child? >·It only costs .60¢ a day · It's easier than you think.·Click here to meet >a waiting child you can sponsor now. > > > Links > > >/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > _______________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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