Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 In a message dated 10/24/2004 7:34:56 AM Mountain Daylight Time, bhagatirtha writes: > Thus Crowley`s system (i mean A.`.A.`.) is MUCH more advanced. What > concerns Tantra, there are almost none serious schools of it in the > west. > In other cases we have to define what we mean by yoga in general. > > For those who follow authentic tantrism or kabbalah Crowley may be > interesting but not necessary to study. > > I'd have to say Crowley is a prime example of somebody I don't want to waste my time with. It's not that he didn't have interesting ideas that helped some liberate themselves from the yoak of fundamentalist thinking. But this is a prime example of why it is important to choose a good teacher, and a womanizer is no good teacher BECAUSE of the energy transfer from teacher to student. Mentally, he may have had good ideas, but actually, he was a womanizer and I want nowhere near his energies. I'm not a prude about sex and I don't have anything against somebody who doesn't want to be monogomous or wants to have more than one partner, but I'm sorry, they have to treat each other with dignity and respect. It is Crowley's lack of respect for women that makes him not worth my time. Why would I want to take yoga advice from a man like that? I wouldn't even consider it. A traditional guru MIGHT have traces of male chauvenism left in his mind, but Crowley had the beam. Like it says in the bible, "How you going to pick the Fleck outa your brother(or sister/s) eye, if you got a BEAM in your own?" But, he had his own karma and his own things to rebel against. For somebody who needs to rebel the same kinds of things Crowley rebelled: the dark shadow of Satan that so many fundamentalist Christian parents project onto their innocent Children, skewing them for life -- Poor Crowely -- when I think of it like that I can sympathise with him and thank him for his gift of free thinking. I hope he's evolved a lot since then... Maybe he's caught up to some of the feminist gurus of the Dark Goddess, now that he's had a chance to be reborn. Who knows where is is right now. I hope he's alright -- and I hope all the women he was so cruel too, are also alright. If it's a good taecher you won't have to sit there wondering about the fallout of all his neurosis, and Crowley was a very neurotic man in certain ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 93 It depends on what is that yoga and what is that student . In general case western "yoga" is mere fitness in better case and fraud by "bakshish-gurus" in worse. Thus Crowley`s system (i mean A.`.A.`.) is MUCH more advanced. What concerns Tantra, there are almost none serious schools of it in the west. In other cases we have to define what we mean by yoga in general. For those who follow authentic tantrism or kabbalah Crowley may be interesting but not necessary to study. , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > > Arjuna Taradasa wrote: > > > But i didn`t say that GD was great . They turned against Crowley > > also `coz he was too advanced. > > What do you think a yoga student can find in Crowley's system that s/he > cannot find elsewhere? > > Regards > > Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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