Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Lars Hedström This is a viewpoint I definitely do not share. Life consists of a complicated web, if we devastate parts of it - may it be the rainforests, whales or fishing out - it affects the whole planet. … if the goddess permit it to happen that is.. If is after all her planet, if she wants it to be devastate it is meant to be and she have her reasons. To me complete surrender to her. She knows what is best. **** I do what I must **** but ultimately it is SHE who will decides and not me. She can destroy what ever you have built at any time and there is nothing you can do about it. What you have done is only within your limitation that is about it. You are just part of this complicated web. It is SHE who controls the whole web and not you. Take a classical case of IVF. Who eventually decides weather it will be successful or not? The Doctor? All those Injections given to the mother to help her to sustain the pregnancy? No! Mother Nature decides. That is what the doctor told me one. I have done what is needed, Now I leave it to Nature to take over. To me your above remark is like a child standing before his/her mother and say : I am the one who make what you are now. If not for me, you are nothing. You are weak and you are helpless. I am the one who is stronger than you. And there is nothing you can do about it. …. Is this how the Goddess is being serve? You wrote : Besides on one plane everything is one, if we devastate nature we devastate ourselves, if we treat animals bad we treat ourselves bad, if we treat our fellow being bad we treat ourselves bad. The same as I am being told, if you treat or hurt your husband or you child, it is the same as hurting DEVI. If you treat another human being badly, it's the same as you are treating DEVI badly. Because we see DEVI as everything around us. We are DEVI herself. And not just the plants, the stones, the air that we breath. So your above statement is no different from what I am being taught. But we are being remind of what we called : humility. This egolistical attitude of I am better and stronger, needs to be check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if SHE must dance -- shake apart all of 'civilization' -- if SHE must burn -- incinerate all of organic creation -- if SHE must weep -- and wash away all humanity's wanton celebration -- then it is because she MUST do so, to enlighten the few, the responsible, the Global WE, Millennium Twain SHE enables ... ===== ===================== meteyyah, mahdieh, mayee ... father of the US/International Space Station Program, publisher of the Structure of the Nucleus, designer of the X49 StarJet, ElectroJet http://unamity.com .... ... .. _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 >If is after all her planet, if she wants it to be devastate it is >meant to be and >she have her reasons. Then if she allowed Duryodhana to commit his crimes, should the Pandavas have just caved in and said, Oh, it's Devi's will, nothing we can do about it? Posh and tish! I agree with what Ellen said earlier, that acting to right injustices is a form of seva to Maa. Indeed, you could say that this accords with what Sri Krishna advocates in the Gita. The event that precipitates the Pandavas into action is the attempted rape of Draupadi. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's Studies http://www.suppressedhistories.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Max Dashu wrote: If is after all her planet, if she wants it to be devastate it is meant to be and she have her reasons.Then if she allowed Duryodhana to commit his crimes, should the Pandavas have just caved in and said, Oh, it's Devi's will, nothing we can do about it? Posh and tish! You have miss the whole context of the message. Please read it again. I said **** I or We do what we must ****. Only a fool would just stand there and let themselves be bullied. Devi helps those who help themselves, that is what I am trying to say. TO just sit and chant "Oh! DEVi help me! Help me! " will not do any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 ~~~ revealing the Central Sun ... ! >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see HER clearly, for the first time ... seeing all time! MIllennium Twain http://unamity.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2004 Report Share Posted October 30, 2004 Thanks, Blessings and Peace, Cathie In a message dated 10/28/2004 6:58:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, yonibluestar writes: > ~~~ revealing the Central Sun ... ! > > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > see HER clearly, for the first time ... > > seeing all time! > > MIllennium Twain > > http://unamity.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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