Those who quote scriptures - questions to "OP"

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, "omprem" <omprem> wrote:

> I have never heard or read of an authentic Guru quoting scripture.

 

Open almost any book of authentic indian guru. Seems U have never read

them LOL. Come on, take and read. Was Sri Yukteshvar Giri not

authentic? Yet he took a job of translation of one scripture and

commented on it. What about Swami Lakshmanjoo? Ganapati

Sachchidananda? Shivaya Subramuniya Swami?

Further, what about Bhaskararaya? Abhinavagupta? Purnananda?

Shankaracharya? Ramanuja? Jayaratha? Etc...

May i know then what is the definition of "authentic Guru" as U think?

 

> They do not quote scripture because they do not need to quote it.

 

SOME do not simply because they do not know it . Also nobody told

that it is NECESSARY for Guru to use scripture. But in fact, MOST used

and even wrote their own and commented upon previous.

 

> As Self-realized beings, they have learned the lessons of the

> scriptures and gone beyond the scriptures to Brahman. They

> speak to aspirants from their own direct experience, from the

> vantage point of cosmic consciousness.

 

It seems U put Urself into this category... And get upset that

nobody here recognize Ur "divine status".

 

> Those who quote scripture in a challenging manner have a

> fundamentalist, literal attitude. But scripture is not literal. It

is metaphorical. It is to be read and understood on several levels.

 

So, it IS TO BE READ? ))) Have U? What about explaining other leves

of Scripture that we are unable to grasp?

 

> Fundamentalists, on the other hand, are incapable of operating

> on different levels. They only know the graphic and the obvious.

> Any subtlety is beyond them. Consequently, the scriptures

> themselves are beyond the grasp of those who quote them at

> the current time. In future, these people may progress but not if

> they insist of misusing and misinterpreting scripture.

 

What do U call "misuse"? If we remember Ur peculiar views on tea,

alcohol and meat, perhaps to USE Scripture is to MISUSE it as U think.

 

A.

[Guest guest]

It seems that I should have made my point clearer.

 

I was referring to those who quote scripture in an attempt to prop

up their arguments, those who like to misuse the scriptures,

abuse the satttvic nature of scripture, by using them to dispute.

 

Authentic gurus do not misuse scripture in this way. Yes, they

write commentaries on scripture, an act for which we are all

grateful. But they do not pollute the sattvic nature of scriptural

messages with tamas and rajas from their own being.

 

Omprem