Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 Hi I was looking for a yogapracice (Pratyahara) on the web but couldn't find any. It seems as there isn't many pages describing yogapractices on the web, so if you know someone please tip me. Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 93 Concerning yoga U may ask Sarabhanga - he is one of very few i know here who is an adequate person and who is practicing authentic yoga. Maybe he suggests something. Otherwise U may read Yoga-sutras with commentary by Vijnana-bhikshu and Upanishads. Pratyahara is dealt with there. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 Pratyahara is simply checking the outward tendency of the senses and turning them inward to facilitate your spiritual exploration. Pratyahara starts with having confidence in yourself and a curiousity about who you really are. It uses introspection and the quieting of desire, moves through inward concentration of the mind, and then to meditation and finally samadhi or enlightenment. Try this link: http://www.yoga-age.com/modern/philosophy/phylosophy12.html Omprem , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > Hi > > I was looking for a yogapracice (Pratyahara) on the web but couldn't > find any. > > It seems as there isn't many pages describing yogapractices on the web, > so if you know someone please tip me. > > > Regards > > Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 omprem wrote: > > Pratyahara is simply checking the outward tendency of the > senses and turning them inward to facilitate your spiritual > exploration. It was on another person's behalf I asked. A person who asked me if I knew some place on the net where he could find this practice. I have a book where it is thorougly described, in A Chakra and Kundalini Workbook by John Mumford. I found a short description here: http://www.emotionalyoga.com/emotionalyoga/directingsenses_practice.asp In mumfords book it is described on 11 pages. What do you think about Mumford btw? Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Arjuna Taradasa wrote: > > 93 > > Concerning yoga U may ask Sarabhanga - he is one of very few i know > here who is an adequate person and who is practicing authentic yoga. > Maybe he suggests something. > OK, but anyway, there aren't many pages on internet with descriptions of yoga-excercises. There is at http://www.3ho.org/ But not pratyahara though. The founder of 3ho, yogi Bhajan, died just a couple of weeks ago I saw on their homepage. How do we say in the yoga-culture, bless his memory or something like that? Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 I'm not aware of JohnMumford or his book. If it is as thorough a description as you say, it should be worth looking into. The link you gave seems to be leaning toward Nada Yoga, the Yoga of Sound. Nada Yoga is excellent for those who have an auditory learning style. In their chakra meditations, they would hear the various anahata sounds, the ones that Buddhism would refer to as the unstruck sounds. Omprem , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > omprem wrote: > > > > > Pratyahara is simply checking the outward tendency of the > > senses and turning them inward to facilitate your spiritual > > exploration. > > > It was on another person's behalf I asked. A person who asked me if I > knew some place on the net where he could find this practice. > > I have a book where it is thorougly described, in A Chakra and Kundalini > Workbook by John Mumford. > > I found a short description here: > > http://www.emotionalyoga.com/emotionalyoga/directingsenses_ practice.asp > > In mumfords book it is described on 11 pages. > > What do you think about Mumford btw? > > Regards > > Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 I tried this link and it wouldn't work for me? > http://www.emotionalyoga.com/emotionalyoga/directingsenses_ practice.asp > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 omprem wrote: >I'm not aware of JohnMumford or his book. If it is as thorough a >description as you say, it should be worth looking into. > > > *"Dr. Jonn Mumford *(Swami Anandakapila Saraswati) wrote his first book "Psychosomatic Yoga" in 1961 while completing an intensive period of yogic study in India. His current books include the bestselling "Ecstasy Through Tantra" (1988), "A Chakra and Kundalini Workbook" (1994), "Magical Tattwa Cards" (1997), "Mind Magic Kit" (1998), "Death: Beginning or End?" (1999) and "Karma Manual" (1999) from Llewellyn Publications; they have been translated into many languages and are available world-wide." From his homepage: http://www.jonnmumfordconsult.com/ If I recall right he was born in India, his parents were from UK. Anyway he has spent a lot of time in India both as child and as grown-up. I have only read his A Chakra and Kundalini Woorkbook. I tried this book's yogaprogram for almost a year but after that started with Sivananda's which to me was much more powerful. I think however that Mumford's program was a good grounding for Sivanandas more powerful yoga. Best Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 The Sivananda approach to Advaita Vedanta, as you might have guessed, is my path too. Omprem , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > omprem wrote: > > >I'm not aware of JohnMumford or his book. If it is as thorough a > >description as you say, it should be worth looking into. > > > > > > > > *"Dr. Jonn Mumford *(Swami Anandakapila Saraswati) wrote his first book > "Psychosomatic Yoga" in 1961 while completing an intensive period of > yogic study in India. His current books include the bestselling "Ecstasy > Through Tantra" (1988), "A Chakra and Kundalini Workbook" (1994), > "Magical Tattwa Cards" (1997), "Mind Magic Kit" (1998), "Death: > Beginning or End?" (1999) and "Karma Manual" (1999) from Llewellyn > Publications; they have been translated into many languages and are > available world-wide." > > From his homepage: > > http://www.jonnmumfordconsult.com/ > > If I recall right he was born in India, his parents were from UK. > > Anyway he has spent a lot of time in India both as child and as grown-up. > > I have only read his A Chakra and Kundalini Woorkbook. I tried this > book's yogaprogram for almost a year but after that started with > Sivananda's which to me was much more powerful. I think however that > Mumford's program was a good grounding for Sivanandas more powerful yoga. > > > Best Regards > > Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 omprem wrote: >The Sivananda approach to Advaita Vedanta, as you might have >guessed, is my path too. > > > But lately, I have begun with Satyanandas program. As I think you know he was a student to Sivananda. The programs are quite similar but there are also differences. Satyanandas seems more advanced. Best Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Satyananda's program is more advanced than Swami Sivananda's? They will both take one to Self-realization. Is not changing one's 'program' just as much a no-no as changing Gurus or changing one's meditation Mantra? I frequently encounter people who think that they have outgrown their Mantra or their Guru or who hop from one form of asana/pranayama to another. IMO they are just skimming the surface of meditation, Guru, yoga practice and themselves. (Not that this is happening to you.) Swami Sivananda has two metaphors for this circumstance: 1. "Do not dig here and there shallow pits for getting water. The pits will dry up soon. Dig a very deep pit in one place. Centralise all your efforts here. You will get good water that can supply you throughout the year." 2. "From one doctor, you get a prescription. From two doctors, you get a consultation. From three doctors, you get your own cremation. Even so, if you have many Gurus [Mantras, yoga practices?] you will be bewildered." One Guru will tell you:"Do Soham Japa". Another will tell you: "Do Japa of Sri Ram". A third Guru will tell you: "Hear Anahat sounds". You will be puzzled. Stick to one Guru and follow his instructions." Omprem , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > omprem wrote: > > >The Sivananda approach to Advaita Vedanta, as you might have > >guessed, is my path too. > > > > > > > > But lately, I have begun with Satyanandas program. As I think you know > he was a student to Sivananda. The programs are quite similar but there > are also differences. Satyanandas seems more advanced. > > Best Regards > > Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 omprem wrote: >Satyananda's program is more advanced than Swami >Sivananda's? > > > I din't say it was better. I don't know. But Satyanandas chakraprogram seems interesting. >I frequently encounter people who think that they have outgrown >their Mantra or their Guru or who hop from one form of >asana/pranayama to another. IMO they are just skimming the >surface of meditation, Guru, yoga practice and themselves. (Not >that this is happening to you.) > > > I agree with you here, but it feels boring to do the same practice over and over again for fiftyeleven years. Life doesn't like stagnation, it searches for new green grass... Best Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 *** agree with you here, but it feels boring to do the same practice over and over again for fiftyeleven years. Life doesn't like stagnation, it searches for new green grass..*** If one is bored with their practice the problem lies with the person not the practice. The need is always to go deeper into the practice, not from the point of view of doing more difficult asanas but from the point of view of making your sadhana more subtle and pervasive. At least you are not straying too far from the tree. Omprem , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > omprem wrote: > > >Satyananda's program is more advanced than Swami > >Sivananda's? > > > > > > > > I din't say it was better. I don't know. But Satyanandas chakraprogram > seems interesting. > > >I frequently encounter people who think that they have outgrown > >their Mantra or their Guru or who hop from one form of > >asana/pranayama to another. IMO they are just skimming the > >surface of meditation, Guru, yoga practice and themselves. (Not > >that this is happening to you.) > > > > > > > > I agree with you here, but it feels boring to do the same practice over > and over again for fiftyeleven years. > > Life doesn't like stagnation, it searches for new green grass... > > Best Regards > > Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > > I agree with you here, but it feels boring to do the same practice over > and over again for fiftyeleven years. > Life doesn't like stagnation, it searches for new green grass... > Best Regards > Lars Hi Lars, I relate to what you are feeling, and am going throught pretty much the same feeling of boredom right now. So, let me share some insights I have gotten about this 'sympton' of boredom. The boredom is our ego's way of saying: It (the practice and the attainment) cannot be that simple, because I seem to have gotten it so easily! Because we are able to rationalize our stance, we lose interest in the same, and get bored. The insight is that it is the working of the insidious instrument called the ego. The true reason the ego rationalizes is that: it fears that attainment is near, which means that its (the ego's) end is in sight, hence it works to struggle against it by creating an "honorable excuse" to not do the practice. The guy who gets convinced by it (me) is still in maya. The guy who has the discipline to overcome these thoughts has, at the very least, overcome this test of maya.... Many more difficult tests may be in store for him till he attains. Now that I 'know', I am still trying to be!!!! . (this is like Microsoft's "Adaptive testing" strategy .... the computer-based question-answer session spits out increasingly difficult questions depending upon the test-taker's answers to previous questions TILL he finally gets his certification!) My 2c only, anyways. Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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