About Sahaja Yoga - to Saki

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Thank U for an adequate reaction to my post . I give a short answer

to U now and close this topic here.

 

 

, "Dionisios Vourtsis"

> I appreciate your interest inhelping me find the truth abour Sahja

Yoga.But, may I ,please,ask you why did you not send me an email

privately?

 

My only intention was to warn U (and possibly others who may be

involved into "sahaja yoga"). I don`t want to go into details here in

list. At last, if anyone wants to believe Narayana Datta Shrimali,

Nirmala Shrivastava or Chidvilasananda Gurumayi it`s their choise.

Everyone has got free will.

 

>I do nott hink it is appropriate to talka gainst a member's beliefs ,

especially without backing it up with serious reasons and proofs, at

public.

 

It is sometimes appropriate. Some may believe that it is good to

worship demons also or to kill people... Not every belief is safe .

There is the serious reason: not every path that claims to be a path

to God is in fact that. It is needed to warn about those teachers who

do not teach right way but merely speculate and lead people into

delusion.

Proofs? Just several points (let us not do into deep HERE):

1. Methods of "sahaja-yoga" are profanation of yogic techniques.

Anyone who has dealt with true yoga will agree with this point.

2. Doctrines of "sahaja-yoga" are improbable mixture of hinduism with

elements of other religions. And in this mixture some fundamental

ideas are totally altered. No christian or jew (i mean mystics and

saints also) will agree with "sahaja-yogic" interpretation of Holy

Spirit. What Nirmala says about Holy Spirit is simply an aparadha,

insult. One thing, she invents her own system and claims it to be

leading to God; and even worse, she give misinterpretations of

christian and hindu ideas and presents her invented "yoga" as the

essence of spiritual path per se! It IS a fraud.

3. If U have read Nirmala`s book about mantra-yoga in it`s end U might

have seen a wonderful table of false teachers. Have U seen that? She

puts into that list many authentic masters and saints! Not even one

indian guru had gone to such a degree (.

 

> So, to sart wiht,you say you know the Sahaja Yoga techniques.But the

question is have you ever used them?Or ,better, have you ever received

your Self realisation (Kundalini Awakening) in the Sahaja way and then

practiced the techniques?If not,then how can you claim they are

useless??

 

Well, firstly, i practiced for a little time - it was many years ago.

I was too foolish and unexperienced and for that reason was interested

in anything that had the word "yoga" LOL. Yes, i have received what

"sahaja-yogis" call "self realisation". So, i have some experience in

this. It was a waste of time only, but i had it LOL. Thanks to God,

soon i understood fakeness and uselessness of this system for any kind

of spiritual upliftment or whatsoever.

I knew people who practiced and practice "s-y" methods. I witnessed

what they have "achieved"...

 

>I have practiced them and I can assureyou they really really work!

 

Well if U are interested to feel "vibrations" and "cool breese of

"holy spirit"" then it does LOL. Just do not claim this to be

Liberation, God realisation or something alike. It has nothing to do

with Kundalini.

U know, it is simple to delude people. Very few have real knowledge or

experience in yoga or tantra. So whatever some "guru" says becomes

truth in eyes of many... Do U really think that all anscient tantric

and yogic tradition is a mistake but Nirmala`s "yoga" is true?

 

>After all,no Divine Incarnation, not Buddha nor Christ no Mohamed

ever said we should do the most complicated thingstto be saved.

 

They never said that salvations is so cheap! You get an idea first of

christianity, buddhism and islam. Read the Gospel, Qur`an, buddhist

scriptures.

And for sure they never taught such kind of "yogic" techniques as

presented by Nirmala...

 

>Still, the matter is whether the techniques work or not, no matter

how complicated or simple they are.

 

If U take LSD or marijuana it will also "work". And holotropic

breathing also "works". And even some black magic ritual do "work" as

well. But the fact that U get some effect from certain practice in no

way proves that a practice is leading to God or self-realisation.

These are simply independent things. Many people who use drugs have

great "realisations" and whatsoever. But their practice in 99 percent

of cases has nothing to do with spiritual path (although they are sure

it is).

 

>And you do not have to take my word for their validity.Just practice

them and see for yourself.it is needed,aslo, to say that most,if

notall, the "sects" have been researched scientifically.Almost all of

them have been found to be ineffective or even dangerous.SahajaYoga

has been proven to be truly effective and beneficial, exactly as

described by Her Hollines Shri Mataji(parasympathetic activation,

decrease of sympathetic activation, activation of the limbic area etc.

).Many Universities and hospitals all over the globe are researching

the benefits of SahajaYoga and are giving proofs of Its validity.

 

This kind of fake information was used by scientologists also - Ron

Habbard speculated in the same way, as well as by Shioko Asahara ).

And they both were founders of totalitarian and destructive cults.

It is not so difficult to fabricate such "proofs". If a "guru" gets

one or two disciples among scientists and doctors, he has all chances

to do that .

 

> Next,you say they are payments for spiritualservices.That is

absolutely false.No one neesto pay for Sahaja Yoga.Payment isneeded

when onewants to buy some written materials, CDs etc.Then, the money

given areonlyfor the materials needed.

 

I never said that there are payments for "realisation" or alike. I

know classes are free. I meant that the cult in general was developed

for the sake of money and fame. And Nirmala got money - which U also

accept. Donations by few rich disciples are enough to become rich.

Others may be entertained "for free" (at least in the sense of money).

 

>After all, Shri mAtajiis very rich,does not need money and hasdonated

Herselflotsof money and some buldings to the Sahaja Yoga Collectivity,

while She has receivedmany many awards in many different countries and

by some Universities and other similiar organisations.

 

Once again, MANY sectarian "masters" have contacts with politicians,

scientists etc. MANY have got awards, titles etc.

Shioko Asahara, San Men Mun, Shri Chinmoy, Ron Habbard, modern "Kalki"

etc etc.

 

> There are many more to say but as it will go tool ong and some may

be tired reading a long email,I will conclude with that:Scientisst

have prooved tat cosmic energy is being emanated from Shri Mataji and

many experiements have prooved the effective power of the cool

vibrations emmited by Her,Her photographs and the Sahaja Yogis/ginis.

 

There is NO such a term in science - "cosmic energy" LOL. And if to

speak about "effective powers" there are SO MANY people that have

some! Hundreds and thousands... Most of them at least have some

modesty not to claim themselves to be "avataras", "saviors" etc.

 

> If there is any question ,you are more than welcome to ask.

> May God blessyou!

> Sakis

 

Let God bless U too and reveal Hid truth to U!

Please excuse me if i hurted Ur feelings. This is my last post

concerning this topic. Please, IF U need to, write me personally

(saidevi55).

 

Satyameva Jayate.

 

A.