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A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's Karpura Manjari:

(Translated by Konow and Lanman).

 

 

I dont know mantra from tantra,

Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's grace.

Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some woman.

But I sure am going on to liberation, since I got the Kula path.

What's more,

I took some horny slut and consecrated her my "holy wife."

Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

My bed is but a piece of human skin.

Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula Religion

Just about the most fun you can have?

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Yeah, funny LOL.

 

As Scripture says, "vAme rAmA ramaNakushalA dakShiNe pAnapAtram" ;))).

 

In fact the path to God through enjoyment is above other paths, `coz

it is sahaja-marga. "bhogo yogAyate sAkShAt...", as it is stated in

Kularnava-tantra.

 

"There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt".

 

A.

 

, "jaimaa1008" <jaimaa1008>

wrote:

> A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's Karpura Manjari:

> (Translated by Konow and Lanman).

>

>

> I dont know mantra from tantra,

> Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's grace.

> Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some woman.

> But I sure am going on to liberation, since I got the Kula path.

> What's more,

> I took some horny slut and consecrated her my "holy wife."

> Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

> My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

> My bed is but a piece of human skin.

> Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula Religion

> Just about the most fun you can have?

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Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

>

> In fact the path to God through enjoyment is above other paths, `coz

> it is sahaja-marga. "bhogo yogAyate sAkShAt...", as it is stated in

> Kularnava-tantra.

>

But what if the path of enjoyment causes path of hell to other beings on

earth? For example, if we eat a lot of meat, animals in the horrifying

slaughterindustry?

 

> "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt".

>

There is no law beyond love to our fellow beings - so they be animals or

humans.

 

Bets Regards

 

Lars

 

 

 

> A.

>

> , "jaimaa1008" <jaimaa1008>

> wrote:

>

> > A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's Karpura Manjari:

> > (Translated by Konow and Lanman).

> >

> >

> > I dont know mantra from tantra,

> > Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's grace.

> > Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some woman.

> > But I sure am going on to liberation, since I got the Kula path.

> > What's more,

> > I took some horny slut and consecrated her my "holy wife."

> > Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

> > My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

> > My bed is but a piece of human skin.

> > Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula Religion

> > Just about the most fun you can have?

>

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-The path to God through enjoyment or licence is but the lazy,

undisciplined person's path to God. It takes the long way around

so it is not above all others. With this path the aspirant has to

exhaust all of his/her desires and get rid of his/her rigid tendency

to focus on external devices to achieve happiness. But these

people finally come to realize, after tens of thousands of

lifetimes , that enjoyment and happiness does not come from

the outside but from turning away from the outside and focusing

within.

 

Some people learn more quickly than others. These people are

slow to learn. But it doesn't matter, we all eventually learn that

craving, self-love and attachment brings only suffering whereas

detachment, egolessness, and focus on Brahman brings

supreme peace.

 

Omprem

 

-- In , Lars Hedström

<lars@2...> wrote:

> Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

>

> >

> > In fact the path to God through enjoyment is above other

paths, `coz

> > it is sahaja-marga. "bhogo yogAyate sAkShAt...", as it is

stated in

> > Kularnava-tantra.

> >

> But what if the path of enjoyment causes path of hell to other

beings on

> earth? For example, if we eat a lot of meat, animals in the

horrifying

> slaughterindustry?

>

>

> > "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt".

> >

> There is no law beyond love to our fellow beings - so they be

animals or

> humans.

>

> Bets Regards

>

> Lars

>

>

>

>

> > A.

> >

> > , "jaimaa1008"

<jaimaa1008>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's Karpura

Manjari:

> > > (Translated by Konow and Lanman).

> > >

> > >

> > > I dont know mantra from tantra,

> > > Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's grace.

> > > Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some woman.

> > > But I sure am going on to liberation, since I got the Kula

path.

> > > What's more,

> > > I took some horny slut and consecrated her my "holy wife."

> > > Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

> > > My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

> > > My bed is but a piece of human skin.

> > > Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula Religion

> > > Just about the most fun you can have?

> >

> >

> >

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But is the Path of a Kaula really like the characature outlined in

the Email that started this thread? I think there is a difference

between enjoyment and indulgence/license. All enjoyments are not

alike. I am a Kaula and I can say that I do not enjoy getting falling

down drunk (in the name of God/dess or otherwise). I'm not kicking up

my heels every night in wild orgies. Nor do I have any desire to have

a different sexual partner everyday of the week.

 

I do enjoy reading in the Sun, drinking tea, spending time at the

Ocean, travel and cooking for friends and family. These things are my

bhukti and I hardly think any of them are paving a road to Hell. Nor

will they in and of themselves lead to nor divert from Liberation.

 

There have always been useless wastrels doing as they please in the

name of religion or any other convenient label. I don't think this

constitutes an accurate definition of the Kaula Path.

 

 

~se101

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "omprem" <omprem> wrote:

>

> -The path to God through enjoyment or licence is but the lazy,

> undisciplined person's path to God. It takes the long way around

> so it is not above all others. With this path the aspirant has to

> exhaust all of his/her desires and get rid of his/her rigid

tendency

> to focus on external devices to achieve happiness. But these

> people finally come to realize, after tens of thousands of

> lifetimes , that enjoyment and happiness does not come from

> the outside but from turning away from the outside and focusing

> within.

>

> Some people learn more quickly than others. These people are

> slow to learn. But it doesn't matter, we all eventually learn that

> craving, self-love and attachment brings only suffering whereas

> detachment, egolessness, and focus on Brahman brings

> supreme peace.

>

> Omprem

>

> -- In , Lars Hedström

> <lars@2...> wrote:

> > Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > In fact the path to God through enjoyment is above other

> paths, `coz

> > > it is sahaja-marga. "bhogo yogAyate sAkShAt...", as it is

> stated in

> > > Kularnava-tantra.

> > >

> > But what if the path of enjoyment causes path of hell to other

> beings on

> > earth? For example, if we eat a lot of meat, animals in the

> horrifying

> > slaughterindustry?

> >

> >

> > > "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt".

> > >

> > There is no law beyond love to our fellow beings - so they be

> animals or

> > humans.

> >

> > Bets Regards

> >

> > Lars

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > A.

> > >

> > > , "jaimaa1008"

> <jaimaa1008>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's Karpura

> Manjari:

> > > > (Translated by Konow and Lanman).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I dont know mantra from tantra,

> > > > Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's grace.

> > > > Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some woman.

> > > > But I sure am going on to liberation, since I got the Kula

> path.

> > > > What's more,

> > > > I took some horny slut and consecrated her my "holy wife."

> > > > Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

> > > > My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

> > > > My bed is but a piece of human skin.

> > > > Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula Religion

> > > > Just about the most fun you can have?

> > >

> > >

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Anyone who thinks free drinking and sex is tantra oes not know what it is. It IS

NOT tantra.

 

No one who is into real Tantra ever gets really drunk - even if he has bottles

and bottles.

And sex as envsaged in normal human content is NOT there in Tantra.

 

My two cents

 

sunelectric101 <ouranian wrote:

 

But is the Path of a Kaula really like the characature outlined in the Email

that started this thread? I think there is a difference between enjoyment and

indulgence/license. All enjoyments are not

alike. I am a Kaula and I can say that I do not enjoy getting falling down drunk

(in the name of God/dess or otherwise). I'm not kicking up my heels every night

in wild orgies. Nor do I have any desire to have

a different sexual partner everyday of the week.

 

I do enjoy reading in the Sun, drinking tea, spending time at the Ocean, travel

and cooking for friends and family. These things are my bhukti and I hardly

think any of them are paving a road to Hell. Nor will they in and of themselves

lead to nor divert from Liberation.

 

There have always been useless wastrels doing as they please in the name of

religion or any other convenient label. I don't think this constitutes an

accurate definition of the Kaula Path.

 

 

~se101

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "omprem" <omprem> wrote:

>

> -The path to God through enjoyment or licence is but the lazy,

> undisciplined person's path to God. It takes the long way around

> so it is not above all others. With this path the aspirant has to

> exhaust all of his/her desires and get rid of his/her rigid

tendency

> to focus on external devices to achieve happiness. But these

> people finally come to realize, after tens of thousands of

> lifetimes , that enjoyment and happiness does not come from

> the outside but from turning away from the outside and focusing

> within.

>

> Some people learn more quickly than others. These people are

> slow to learn. But it doesn't matter, we all eventually learn that

> craving, self-love and attachment brings only suffering whereas

> detachment, egolessness, and focus on Brahman brings

> supreme peace.

>

> Omprem

>

> -- In , Lars Hedström

> <lars@2...> wrote:

> > Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > In fact the path to God through enjoyment is above other

> paths, `coz

> > > it is sahaja-marga. "bhogo yogAyate sAkShAt...", as it is

> stated in

> > > Kularnava-tantra.

> > >

> > But what if the path of enjoyment causes path of hell to other

> beings on

> > earth? For example, if we eat a lot of meat, animals in the

> horrifying

> > slaughterindustry?

> >

> >

> > > "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt".

> > >

> > There is no law beyond love to our fellow beings - so they be

> animals or

> > humans.

> >

> > Bets Regards

> >

> > Lars

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > A.

> > >

> > > , "jaimaa1008"

> <jaimaa1008>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's Karpura

> Manjari:

> > > > (Translated by Konow and Lanman).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I dont know mantra from tantra,

> > > > Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's grace.

> > > > Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some woman.

> > > > But I sure am going on to liberation, since I got the Kula

> path.

> > > > What's more,

> > > > I took some horny slut and consecrated her my "holy wife."

> > > > Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

> > > > My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

> > > > My bed is but a piece of human skin.

> > > > Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula Religion

> > > > Just about the most fun you can have?

> > >

> > >

> > >

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The fact is, those who are using the path properly

will find their desire for any kind of debauchery or

licence DECREASING, as one is finally "getting past"

the need for such things. The "craving" is finally

being satisfied! Having sex over and over again

indicates the sex is NOT satisfying anything, else the

desire for it would not keep returning so quickly! One

proper maithuna should satisfy one so thoroughly that

desire does not arise again for THREE MONTHS! I found

when my practices were at their height, I had no real

desire for sex at all..the Divine Union was so

"satisfying" that mere mundane sex would have been a

comedown by comparison! Even today, if I did not now

have a partner, I likely would not bother with

physical sexual activity at all. We are conditioned to

crave it by the media in our sex-obsessed society,

because fostering insecurity about one's sexual

attractiveness keeps the clothes and makeup

manufacturers, and the plastic surgeons et al in

business. It is a MONEYMAKING scam. We are led to

believe we will shrivel up and die if we don't have

sex every night! When I was celibate, I had no worries

about disease, pregnancy, or any of the other nonsense

associated with it. I could get on with other, more

important things, like my relationship with the

Infinite. That was more satisfying that any thing

else!

Lilith M.

--- sunelectric101 <ouranian wrote:

>

> But is the Path of a Kaula really like the

> characature outlined in

> the Email that started this thread? I think there is

> a difference

> between enjoyment and indulgence/license. All

> enjoyments are not

> alike. I am a Kaula and I can say that I do not

> enjoy getting falling

> down drunk (in the name of God/dess or otherwise).

> I'm not kicking up

> my heels every night in wild orgies. Nor do I have

> any desire to have

> a different sexual partner everyday of the week.

>

> I do enjoy reading in the Sun, drinking tea,

> spending time at the

> Ocean, travel and cooking for friends and family.

> These things are my

> bhukti and I hardly think any of them are paving a

> road to Hell. Nor

> will they in and of themselves lead to nor divert

> from Liberation.

>

> There have always been useless wastrels doing as

> they please in the

> name of religion or any other convenient label. I

> don't think this

> constitutes an accurate definition of the Kaula

> Path.

>

>

> ~se101

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, "omprem"

> <omprem> wrote:

> >

> > -The path to God through enjoyment or licence is

> but the lazy,

> > undisciplined person's path to God. It takes the

> long way around

> > so it is not above all others. With this path the

> aspirant has to

> > exhaust all of his/her desires and get rid of

> his/her rigid

> tendency

> > to focus on external devices to achieve happiness.

> But these

> > people finally come to realize, after tens of

> thousands of

> > lifetimes , that enjoyment and happiness does not

> come from

> > the outside but from turning away from the outside

> and focusing

> > within.

> >

> > Some people learn more quickly than others. These

> people are

> > slow to learn. But it doesn't matter, we all

> eventually learn that

> > craving, self-love and attachment brings only

> suffering whereas

> > detachment, egolessness, and focus on Brahman

> brings

> > supreme peace.

> >

> > Omprem

> >

> > -- In , Lars

> Hedström

> > <lars@2...> wrote:

> > > Arjuna Taradasa wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > In fact the path to God through enjoyment is

> above other

> > paths, `coz

> > > > it is sahaja-marga. "bhogo yogAyate

> sAkShAt...", as it is

> > stated in

> > > > Kularnava-tantra.

> > > >

> > > But what if the path of enjoyment causes path of

> hell to other

> > beings on

> > > earth? For example, if we eat a lot of meat,

> animals in the

> > horrifying

> > > slaughterindustry?

> > >

> > >

> > > > "There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt".

> > > >

> > > There is no law beyond love to our fellow beings

> - so they be

> > animals or

> > > humans.

> > >

> > > Bets Regards

> > >

> > > Lars

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > A.

> > > >

> > > > ,

> "jaimaa1008"

> > <jaimaa1008>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > A parody of the kaulas rom Rajashekara's

> Karpura

> > Manjari:

> > > > > (Translated by Konow and Lanman).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I dont know mantra from tantra,

> > > > > Nor meditation or anything about a teacher's

> grace.

> > > > > Instead, I drink cheap booze and enjoy some

> woman.

> > > > > But I sure am going on to liberation, since

> I got the Kula

> > path.

> > > > > What's more,

> > > > > I took some horny slut and consecrated her

> my "holy wife."

> > > > > Sucking up booze and wolfing down red meat,

> > > > > My "holy alms" are whatever I like to eat,

> > > > > My bed is but a piece of human skin.

> > > > > Say, who wouldn't declare this Kaula

> Religion

> > > > > Just about the most fun you can have?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > * Sponsor*

> > > >

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>The fact is, those who are using the path properly

>will find their desire for any kind of debauchery or

>licence DECREASING, as one is finally "getting past"

>the need for such things. The "craving" is finally

>being satisfied! Having sex over and over again

>indicates the sex is NOT satisfying anything, else the

>desire for it would not keep returning so quickly!

 

That is an interesting way of describing a path. I remembered restricting

my diet all the time, and the food that my diet mainly composed of was not

so satisfying anymore. So, I suppose that the philosophy behind what you

mentioned actually makes a lot of sense...at least for me.

 

I am not familiar with the Kaula path, apart from what I read here and there

on this thread, but I still found your description in general an interesting

one. :)

 

Blessings,

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