Zionism and Palestine

[Guest guest]

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>Why is it that people use Hitler as an example if bad

> conduct but do not use the Zionists who used Hitlerian tactics to

> invade and conquer Palestine as an example of bad conduct.? Or, are

> the Palestinians just reaping a group karma, i.e. getting what they

> deserve? Should the Palestinians be thankful for this opportunity

> to work off some karmic debt?

 

In fact the story is rather different. Although this list is not a

place for political discussions i believe, just for general

information i`ll say a few words.

Arab countries had done FAR more sins against Israel and from the very

beginning tried to terminate it. Hitler was supported by some "muslim"

leaders in his effort to kill the jews. Why we have no peace in that

region? Because islamic fundamentalists DO NOT WANT it. [May be that

is a play of US also - to make good weapon market...] What was the

problem to allow jewish people to have thier own land? Arabs have

great territories however still want more and more . Of course this

doesn`t apply to common people of those countries - it is politicians

who decide everything. But it is very wrong to put blame upon Israel..

..

 

A.

[Guest guest]

"What was the problem to allow jewish people to have thier own

land?

 

 

The Zionists took the land from those who had lived in it for

centuries. They killed tens of thousands, deported hundreds of

thousands. The Zionists transgressed Ahimsa, Asteya, Satya,

and Aparigraha.

 

FYI The Zionists have had a campaign to take over Palestine

since 1897.

 

In 1895, the total population of Palestine is approximately

500,000. Of this population, around 47,000 are Jews, some of

which are part of the indigenous population and the remainder of

which represents small groups which had immigrated to

Palestine for purely religious reasons.

 

In 1896, Theodore Hertzl, founder of the Zionist movement,

writes in Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) that "the idea which I

have developed in this pamphlet is a very old one: it is the

restoration of the Jewish state." Hertzl mentions Palestine and

Argentina as possible sites. Notice how the Zionists were not

too particular which country they took over.

 

In 1897, The 1st Zionist Congress is held in Basle, Switzerland,

and declares that the goal of Zionism is to "create for the Jewish

people a home in Palestine secured by public law." The

Congress also decides to establish the World Zionist

Organization (WZO).

 

In 1917, Britain issued the Balfour Declaration which stated, "His

Majesty's Government view with favor the establishment in

Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use

their endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it

being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may

prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish

communities in Palestine or the rights and political status

enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

 

Dr. Chaim Weizmann, leader of the Zionist movement, is critical

in influencing the drafting of the Balfour Declaration. He is

successful in stirring up Zionist support by spreading the slogan

"A land without people for a people without a land."

 

Britain begins governing Palestine as an occupying Power with a

de facto administration in the form of a military government in

December 1917.

 

WWII only gave the Zionists an excuse. The Zionist paramilitary

gangs (Haganah, Irgun and the Stern Gang) fought against the

British in Palestine to gain the ascendency and even blew up

hotels and killed a UN representative.

 

There is no peace because those who lost their land are fighting

to regain it.

 

That 's it for the history lesson. Let's keep the discussion on the

karmic implications for the Zionists and Palestinians or move

on.

 

Omprem

 

, "Arjuna Taradasa"

<bhagatirtha@m...> wrote:

>

> 93

>

> >Why is it that people use Hitler as an example if bad

> > conduct but do not use the Zionists who used Hitlerian

tactics to

> > invade and conquer Palestine as an example of bad

conduct.? Or, are

> > the Palestinians just reaping a group karma, i.e. getting what

they

> > deserve? Should the Palestinians be thankful for this

opportunity

> > to work off some karmic debt?

>

> In fact the story is rather different. Although this list is not a

> place for political discussions i believe, just for general

> information i`ll say a few words.

> Arab countries had done FAR more sins against Israel and

from the very

> beginning tried to terminate it. Hitler was supported by some

"muslim"

> leaders in his effort to kill the jews. Why we have no peace in

that

> region? Because islamic fundamentalists DO NOT WANT it.

[May be that

> is a play of US also - to make good weapon market...] What

was the

> problem to allow jewish people to have thier own land? Arabs

have

> great territories however still want more and more . Of course

this

> doesn`t apply to common people of those countries - it is

politicians

> who decide everything. But it is very wrong to put blame upon

Israel..

> .

>

> A.

[Guest guest]

Palestinians and jewish were fighiting from thousands of years. Evidence found

in the old Testament. The only solution to solve the problem is VACATE all

the people from the disputed area.Settle them in the different parts of the

world.The result :The blood shed will be stopped.

 

namasivayam