Fear is the byproduct of thoughts and time?

[Guest guest]

Nora wrote : *** We hate each other because we like to think we are

better than the other.***

 

Omprem wrote : I think that we hate each other because we have fear.

Yes, fear can cause us to imagine ourselves better than others so that

we obscure our fear. If we are not connected to our true identity and

if another person does something that interferes with our sense of

security and whatever self-image we have managed to create (or did so

in a prior life), we become fearful and lash out. 'Interfering with

one's sense of security' covers an extremely long of list of

possibilities - office politics, insults and put-downs, physical

abuse, preventing education and self-expression, insisting on the

supremacy of a particular religion or culture, hoarding scarce

resources, squandering scarce resources, thwarting desires, dismissing

of one's ideas, and generally seeing someone as a separate entity with

no spiritual connection. The list goes on and on. "

 

Beautiful Ompremji. Thank you.

 

Can I say then that Fear is the byproduct of thoughts and time?

 

"We have to develop an inner sense of our own Divinity and identity

with That. Then we cannot be threatened under any circumstances."

 

I competely agree with you on this.

[Guest guest]

, "N. Madasamy"

<nmadasamy@s...> wrote:

>

> Can I say then that Fear is the byproduct of thoughts and time?

>

> "We have to develop an inner sense of our own Divinity and

identity

> with That. Then we cannot be threatened under any circumstances."

>

> I competely agree with you on this.

 

Nora, if I may add here.

 

Fear is the byproduct of ignorance (the Original Cause for our being

born in the first place - atleast most of us), because it leads to

creating a separate identity ("I" know vs "I" dont know), and

what "I don't know" makes me afraid.

 

So, fear causes confusion (durgam) and agitates the mind, and which

leads to all kinds of THOUGHTS, and attention focused on a TIME-

bound identification such as the body.

 

So, it's the other way around .... Thoughts and Time are the

byproducts of the (original) Fear. Of course, after that, it can be

a vicious circle of fear then feeding to more thoughts which leads

to more fear and so on....

 

Stilling the mind by doing spiritual practices leads to destroying

the confusion (agitations of the mind) and makes it empty.

 

At this point, one needs to receive God's Grace to kill this

ignorance (avidya - last point of identification with the body/mind

system) and lead one to fullness - a state of no-thought, no-time -

which then leads to fearlessness.

 

Jai Ma!