Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Thanks Lilith. Yes, Tantra is iconoclastic and requires no names, forms, rituals, mantras, yantras, icons or temples - only a man and woman in love with each other and with True Dharma, whereby they obtain maximum Salvation from the 8-Fold Suffering of: hunger, disease, senescence (the universal disease from aging), death, low mental intelligence, emotional depression, entrapment of consciousness within the physical dimension, and the impermanence from the endless round (Samsara) of incarnations. Of course, to attain such a state, one must attain an ongoing Genetic Rejuvenation to maintain physical immortality. And if such a person's body was destroyed, his/her life in other dimensions would be much better than for those who had not attained such an "Initiation" while in the body. Scriptures report such extreme longevity as preferable to the life of one who had not attained it. Nevertheless, in all actuality, there is no physical example, we can lay our hands on, of physcial immortality. For that reason, despite scriptural claims of it, scientifically, it is but a mere theory. To advance this theory and to arrange its Experimental Research is my personal Bhakti Seva Sadhana. If a man could attain all this multi-faceted Salvations from Sufferings, by compliance of a woman, he would indeed probably adore her as his personal Savior. For that reason, I propose that Tantra Sadhana is the origin of Worship of the Divine Mother, because all the reasons are there for doing so. Jai Ma. - Sai Ram , Lili Masamura <sephirah5> wrote: > Yes, I must add to this remark that my prediction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:37:44 -0000 "tantrayudha" wrote: > > Yes, Tantra is iconoclastic and requires no names, > forms, rituals, mantras, yantras, icons or temples - only a man and > woman in love with each other and with True Dharma I would argue that Tantra is feasible by a single, unattached person as well. If you don't happen to have your "soul mate" at this time, much of your Tantric energies can be channeled towards a "manasik" (mind-born) partner (or the Deity of your choice). Indeed, I would argue that Tantra is possible between two lovers of the same sex. Each of us contains both male and female aspects, and I encourage the visualizarion of the God and the Goddess together, making love in your Heart chakra. I have also argued that Goddess worship has other inspirations beyond the explicitly sexual. The Goddess can be related to as one's lover (straight or gay), and also as one's mother, daughter, sister, teacher, student, friend, nemesis, and alter ego. Or am I being too much of a polymorphous hippy? I don't think so. -- Len/ Kalipadma ______________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 indeed Kalipadma! tantra is not about sex, tantra is about cultivation ... the living pathway of enlightenment, omniscience, ominipotence, immortality. in the harmonious handholding with the ONE, the All ... WE become completely clear, WHOLLY resplendant, enabled ... Millennium Twain singing HER song ... --- kalipadma wrote: > > > > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:37:44 -0000 "tantrayudha" wrote: > > > > > Yes, Tantra is iconoclastic and requires no names, > > forms, rituals, mantras, yantras, icons or temples - only a man and > > woman in love with each other and with True Dharma > > I would argue that Tantra is feasible by a single, unattached person as > well. If you don't happen to have your "soul mate" at this time, much of > your Tantric energies can be channeled towards a "manasik" (mind-born) > partner (or the Deity of your choice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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