Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 93 , "jessica_malone1000" > Dear Devi_bhakta, > > I see, you are personifying shakti. > As i understand shakti is the reflective awareness of oneself, as > opposed to prakasha aspect which lights this reflective awareness. What i do not understand is the following: if U are such a strict follower of Pratyabhijna philosophy then why do u personify Skanda and talk of "sadhana"? ))) Even Krama, Kula and Trika systems do personify Shakti to some degree. It is only Pratyabhijna (which is supposed to reflect shambhavopaya or even anupaya) do not have any personifications but stresses pure awareness, achievement through mere recognition of our true Nature. Thus, there is no "sadhana" in Pratyabhijna . Does any Pratyabhijna text describe Skanda worship and any kind of Skanda-sadhana? > Anyway, at some point in spiritual sadhana, the fear of death has to > be encountered and overcome. This is when Skanda (The general among the warriors) sadhana come into play. Its a little more challenging than getting absorbed into the lotus feet of the beautiful beloved :-) U start with supposedly highest level of pure self-recognition (at least from some point of view; in Kaula view Pratyabhijna is still inferior for certain reasons) and then continue with suggestion of performing sadhana of some deity in order to remove fear of death!? What is the logic? In the very beginning of spiritual path - if one has some true experience - fear of death is removed. What to speak of great people to whom Shakti is simply vimarsha aspect of Anuttara... ) Besides, those who "get absorbed into the lotus feet of the beautiful beloved" have no fear and need not to perform any sadhanas... Finally, does any tantric scripture support Ur vies on this topic? It seems to me that these ideas are formed by a peculiar mixture of Lakshmanjoo's books with some "new age tantra" manuals LOL... At least no Kashmiri tantric tradition has Skanda-worship in it as a necessary or significant part . A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Before i answer your question in entirety, i believe Kaula view itself is distorted. Vasishta drinking and mating with Tara. Anyone who has practiced ahimsa for sometime would know that these kind of arguments are the product of someone who does not have the willpower to even undergo the simplest of spiritual disciplines. Anyway, pratyabijna is universal, it does not limit itself to kashmir. Kaulas are people who are from kulas, not people who practice what the modern tantrics have written about Kaulachara. -J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Not wanting to sound so pure, i would have found a statement vasishta enjoying with Tara after smoking or using herbs a little more from practical experience. Drinking dulls ones senses, it is universally known. > Before i answer your question in entirety, i believe Kaula view itself > is distorted. Vasishta drinking and mating with Tara. Anyone who has > practiced ahimsa for sometime would know that these kind of arguments > are the product of someone who does not have the willpower to even > undergo the simplest of spiritual disciplines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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