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Dear Len/Kalipadma:

Yes, I heard the same story..I also heard that Neem

Karoli Baba actually "palmed" the LSD and did not take

it at all, he let Dr Alpert THINK he did! And I also

agree that while a little is good, more is not

necessarily better! Also, the set and setting, as

repeatedly emphasized by Timothy Leary, is crucial for

obtaining maximum benefit. Surrounding yourself with a

safe uplifting environment and supportive people will

get you farther, naturally, than a noisy drunken orgy

in a dubious environment. You wouldn't perform brain

surgery in a stable, would you? Then why expand one's

awareness in a sinkhole of human iniquity and

baseness? Maybe if the 60's LSD experience had been

conducted with a bit more respect and reverence for

what they were doing, things might have been

different! Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) and Timothy Leary

showed the possibilities of a different kind of

experience. I consider myself fortunate that I was

able to come to the whole scene in my later years,

backed up by life experience and people I could trust,

and that I had the capacity to recognize the

possibilities and the occult knowledge to make a full

use of them. I must say, I had the most remarkable

experience for my second LSD trip..I decided I would

take it on Maha Shiva Ratri, the Great Night of Shiva,

when Shiva is said to visit in person His devotees

that stay up all night to await him. I got the idea to

do so, and prayed for confirmation that it was the

right approach to take..did I get confirmation or

WHAT!!! I will tell you all about it in a post later

on tonight..

Lilith M.

--- kalipadma wrote:

>

> I am reminded of the story of Dr. Richard Alpert the

> LSD "psychonaut,"

> who met saint Neem Karoli Baba in the 1960s.

> Maharajji asked Alpert,

> "The medicine you take -- it gives you siddhis?

> Give me some." NKB took

> a HUGE dose of LSD, and instead of tripping his mind

> out, just continued

> to run his ashram (with an occasional twinkling

> glance at Alpert).

>

> Afterwards, Maharajji told Alpert, "Interesting --

> but Yoga is better."

>

> (You will note NKB did not harangue Alpert, "You're

> awful! You're so

> Tamasic! Here, drop some more acid!")

>

> An advanced soul can partake of all sorts of

> intoxicants without it

> affecting him negatively. But intoxicants are a

> tool which should be

> used sparingly, if at all.

>

> -- Len/ Kalipadma

>

>

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 02:33:00 -0000 "omprem"

> <omprem writes:

> >

> >

> > ***To think that any drug or smoke or substance

> can block God

> > from consciousness is really stupid, when God and

> > consciousness are one. ***

> >

> > God and Pure Consciousness are One.

> >

> > Ordinary consciousness and especially

> consciousness

> > adulterated with alcohol, drugs or any of the

> other weird and

> > wonderful pasttimes proposed by some of the

> members here is

> > not capable of bringing one to an awareness of

> their own Divinity

> > or of Brahman. That is why we have sadhana - to

> purify the mind,

> > the rest of the astral body and the physcial body

> so that

> > Samadhi can be experienced.

> >

> > Omprem

> >

>

>

>

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