You might be surprised...

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Actually, after thinking about it, my dear OmPrem, if

you really ARE as disciplined as you claim to be...(a

yoga teacher etc.) you would probably get EXCELLENT

results by smoking a joint in a ritual fashion.

Actually, just a puff or two would probably be

completely sufficient. It would free up your mind to

take a whole different direction..it is, after all,

the conscious, rational mind that is the REAL obstacle

to connecting with one's own Divine Awareness. People

persist in thinking that this sort of spiritual

practice is an excuse for lack of discipline..quite

the contrary, as I have repeatedly, if futilely,

pointed out! Not just anyone will do for a ritual

sexual partner, not just any old state of mind will

suffice, and not just any old environment will do, as

it does in one's normal existence, and you should have

consecrated the entheogenic substances in question

beforehand. One must be in "ritual mind" and in

"ritual space", and be able to HOLD ON to that state

of mind until "God" takes over for you. Believe me,

you will know when that is! Uncontrollable emotional

outbursts (Mahabhava Samadhi), such as alternately

weeping and laughing are usually the first sign that

"something" is happening. A partner who gets freaked

out by this will ruin the whole experience! Liberation

is indeed within...the trick is finding it! Entheogens

can help one along the way, but they must always be

treated with respect. You are seeking to maintain an

exalted mental state; one will certainly find out

firsthand just how much control one actually has over

the monkey-mind after a puff or two on a joint! That

is why it is referred to as the "heroic" path! Nothing

is accomplished by wallowing mindlessly like a beast

in drug fog or animal lusts, one's mind must remain

calm, detached, and in the "witnessing state" as long

as possible, while repeating one's mantra. Even

better, one should have a shrine to focus on, with

offerings having been made beforehand, and appropriate

devotional music playing. (Shiva Puja and kirtan is

especially appropriate, naturally, if using ganja) You

might be surprised that one puff can take you where

years of yoga did not..

Lilith M.

 

--- omprem <omprem wrote:

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> To all of you who have responded to this thread and

> offered

> advice, I can only reply that if dropping acid,

> smoking a joint,

> eating shit ,as recommended by you doesn't work, I

> can always

> try sex with animals or corpses, perhaps eating

> corpses or any

> of the other weird and wonderful acts promoted by

> you in this

> group as ways to liberation.

>

> Omprem

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