Shiva and Shakti = Father and Holy Spirit for Christians?

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In a message dated 12/8/2004 1:45:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

angelusmortiis writes:

Shiva represents Consciousness and Shakti represents Power, correct? Maybe

it depends on the traditions and schools of thought

 

 

I think it does really depend on the particular tradition because there are

so many sects within Christianity. When you are looking at Shiva and Shakti as

a divine pairing where Shiva is unmanifest and Shakti manifest, I would argue

that for the most part Christianity offers no direct parallel.

 

The reasons being that God as father represents a paternal demiurgic

archetype, the popular idea of "the big man upstairs" leads me to believe that

generally it is the physical creator aspect that is worshipped and not

neccessarily

transcendent godhead.

 

I can see how you get the comparison, but I wouldn't be too absolute about it.

 

The creator God is not the highest point of the heirarchy as it were because

even it exists and must have come from somewhere else! The transcendent

Parabrahman which exists as the soul of all things seems to me a much higher

conception of divinity.

 

Not saying that my claims are truth either, but in general it seems correct

by what I see.

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

I know that I have not said anything for a while, which I apologise for (I

been working on school work and recovering from the icky cold). However, I

been checking in once in a while and you all have been in my prayers.

 

I been thinking for a while about all the possible parallels that

Christianity has with the Sanatana Dharma. Even though some (if not the

majority) of Christian denominations take a dualistic approach, I found an

interesting parallel when I was looking through some of the Old Testament...

 

Shiva represents Consciousness and Shakti represents Power, correct? Maybe

it depends on the traditions and schools of thought (since there are so

many!), but anyway...I noticed how in the Old Testament in the Bible, when

God is wrathful, the Holy Spirit tends to do a lot of the dirty work (in

some cases, the watcher/angel of death). Basically, I noticed how over all,

the Holy Spirit seems to be the 'active' force between the Father and the

Holy Spirit. Am I wrong to see this parallel? Just food for thought...I

will admit that I have a bad habit of trying to find parallels with other

religions, even when I am sticking to only the Sanatana Dharma as far as my

studies go.

 

What does everyone else here think?

 

 

Blessings,

Christina

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I always draw parelels in the trinity, with rishi, devata and chandas, the three

Buddha bodies, and many other systems. There's always a trinity, which is also

seen in knower, known and process of knowing, and also the mind, feelings, and

senses.

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swastik108

Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:16 PM

Re: Shiva and Shakti = Father and Holy Spirit for

Christians?

 

 

In a message dated 12/8/2004 1:45:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,

angelusmortiis writes:

Shiva represents Consciousness and Shakti represents Power, correct? Maybe

it depends on the traditions and schools of thought

 

 

I think it does really depend on the particular tradition because there are

so many sects within Christianity. When you are looking at Shiva and Shakti as

a divine pairing where Shiva is unmanifest and Shakti manifest, I would argue

that for the most part Christianity offers no direct parallel.

 

The reasons being that God as father represents a paternal demiurgic

archetype, the popular idea of "the big man upstairs" leads me to believe that

generally it is the physical creator aspect that is worshipped and not

neccessarily

transcendent godhead.

 

I can see how you get the comparison, but I wouldn't be too absolute about it.

 

The creator God is not the highest point of the heirarchy as it were because

even it exists and must have come from somewhere else! The transcendent

Parabrahman which exists as the soul of all things seems to me a much higher

conception of divinity.

 

Not saying that my claims are truth either, but in general it seems correct

by what I see.

 

 

 

 

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, swastik108@a... wrote:

When you are looking at Shiva and Shakti as

> a divine pairing where Shiva is unmanifest and Shakti manifest, I

would argue that for the most part Christianity offers no direct

parallel.

 

There is a direct parallel. Father is unmanifest and transcendental,

Absolute Godhead, YHVH. And Holy Spirit is His manifested power,

grace and glory, Shekhinah (God's presence).

 

Father is Shiva, Holy Spirit is Shakti and Son is Nara.

 

A.

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Namaste Christina,

The Hindu Trimurti is quite comparable with the Christian Trinity.

In such a comparison, however, the "Father" is Brahma and the "Holy

Ghost" is Shiva-Shakti.

Please see: http://www.geocities.com/sarabhanga/kapila.html

for more details.