Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Hi Anya, Vetalas and other forms of spirits belong to a certain world or environment and I would definitely say that their food is flesh and blood. But one cannot compare them to vampires as these spirits can be brought under influence by way of certain practices. But it is strictly advisable not to even indulge in such things and concentrate on increasing your love for your respective god, goddess, deities or simply HUMANITY. Love to all Satyen Anya Mortiis <angelusmortiis wrote: Hello everyone, This may seem a bit weird of a question to ask, but curiosity killed the cat. A lot of "vampirism" sources love to say that vetalas and rakshasas are the closest parallels to European vampires. What do you think? I am suspending judgment for I seem to only find research from a more "Western" viewpoint - I want to hear the other side of the story (the "Eastern" viewpoint) before I come up with any conclusions. I know how a lot of "New Age" authors will twist and fluff things to the point where the actual facts are buried. Thanks and blessings, Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 I knew as much as them consuming flesh and blood, but maybe those are the traits that these authors use as a strength in the argument. However, that is why I brought it up, since I wanted to hear the other side of the story. It would be not only unfair, but ignorant of me to completely take what the other authors say as the answer. Thanks for your input! Blessings, >Satyen Rao <satyenrao > > > Vampirism in Hinduism? NO NO >Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:13:45 -0800 (PST) > > >Hi Anya, Vetalas and other forms of spirits belong to a certain world or >environment and I would definitely say that their food is flesh and blood. >But one cannot compare them to vampires as these spirits can be brought >under influence by way of certain practices. But it is strictly advisable >not to even indulge in such things and concentrate on increasing your love >for your respective god, goddess, deities or simply HUMANITY. > >Love to all >Satyen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Satyen Rao wrote:Vetalas and other forms of spirits belong to a certain world or environment and I would definitely say that their food is flesh and blood. But one cannot compare them to vampires as these spirits can be brought under influence by way of certain practices. But it is strictly advisable not to even indulge in such things and concentrate on increasing your love for your respective god, goddess, deities or simply HUMANITY. Thank you Satyenji. I am wondering too where does this topic of discussion will lead us to. What is Shakti Sadhana? Shakti Sadhana is a Hindu spiritual discipline (usually some combination of Vedic and Tantric practice) that focuses worship upon Devi (the Goddess, in Her various forms), who both creates and embodies all the Universe. Many devotees conceive Devi as the Supreme Energy (Shakti) of Shiva (Supreme Consciousness); both identical to and inseparable from Him. Others, the "pure Shaktas," worship Her as nothing less than ParaBrahman (the Ultimate Divine Principle) Itself, the One Without a Second, holding that all other forms of Divinity, female or male, are but Her diverse manifestations. Shakti Sadhana encompasses asana of all shakthis but not paisaachi and kshudra shakthis. Pauishachi is evil foces of ghosty origin and kshudra is evil devine forces. Both have nothing in common with shakthi sadhana. Shakti Sadhana main aim is to attain saarupya (looks) and sayujya (merger) with Adi Paraa Shakthi whose manifestations are lalita etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Dear Sir, My humble question will be, if the divine devi is the essence of all manifestation then surely pisachas and bhetalas must be one of her manifestation?? As I see it, all manifestations are here to take you to a next level of awareness should u be lower in the spiritual ladder? ... even pisachas are needed to maintain the balance of the way things stand? While I fully agree that learning or understanding about them too deeply is counter productive to a true "seeker" whose focus should only be Lalitha or Kali before going into the nirguna parabrahma ... Awareness of the same is not incorrect? Please correct me if I am mistaken ... I presume shakti sadhana is the only focus of this forum, and hence such topics should not be discussed? Just to share what I know, I dont think vampires can be correlated to Pisachas or Bhetalas .. simply because pisachas and bhetalas are not always manifest physically ... as I understand it .. quite a number of such beings do not exist at all unless invoked for a specific purpose in which case they come do the task given to them and then have to be sent back ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 >Please correct me if I am mistaken ... I presume shakti sadhana is the only >focus of this forum, >and hence such topics should not be discussed? I thought that little things here and there were allowed, but if the attitude of the board overall has changed since I last posted here, then I apologize for not noticing so. If it humors everyone, I will just ask questions about Shakti Sadhana, and nothing else... I suppose it is my time to back into my little corner again. Blessings, Anya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Three words for you Anya : GET BACK HERE ! "I presume shakti sadhana is the only focus of this forum, and hence such topics should not be discussed? I thought that little things here and there were allowed, but if the attitude of the board overall has changed since I last posted here, then I apologize for not noticing so." Well we did didn't we. We did not delete those messages that have been posted nor we reject. If you were to compare us with other hindu groups, I believe we are more "liberal" with the messages that goes through the forum. We only give a gentle reminder about the group focus that is all, for any group to function properly we must have a focus, an objectives. Thus I don't think so the general attitude of the group particular the attitude of the moderators have changed. If you browse through our archives [ let me see perhaps 1 ½ hrs ago ] such topics have been discuss, it get off hand and leads to a different direction altogether, which have no parallels to Shakti Sadhana. It becomes a distraction, thus my question is : where does all these leads us to. Nearer to DEVI. IF Surya said, yes it does for him, then good, we are not going to say that he is wrong. Satyen have remarked: "it is strictly advisable not to even indulge in such things and concentrate on increasing your love for your respective god, goddess, deities or simply HUMANITY." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Namaste, but if devi has given birth to all things, then she is the mother of all things therefore all things have to do with devi! if infact vampires or vampire like beings do exsist are they also not devi's children? therefore this topic whether directly or indirectly does have to do with devi. Aum sri maha deviya namah! Ardan Mihiraan NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: Three words for you Anya : GET BACK HERE ! "I presume shakti sadhana is the only focus of this forum, and hence such topics should not be discussed? I thought that little things here and there were allowed, but if the attitude of the board overall has changed since I last posted here, then I apologize for not noticing so." Well we did didn't we. We did not delete those messages that have been posted nor we reject. If you were to compare us with other hindu groups, I believe we are more "liberal" with the messages that goes through the forum. We only give a gentle reminder about the group focus that is all, for any group to function properly we must have a focus, an objectives. Thus I don't think so the general attitude of the group particular the attitude of the moderators have changed. If you browse through our archives [ let me see perhaps 1 ½ hrs ago ] such topics have been discuss, it get off hand and leads to a different direction altogether, which have no parallels to Shakti Sadhana. It becomes a distraction, thus my question is : where does all these leads us to. Nearer to DEVI. IF Surya said, yes it does for him, then good, we are not going to say that he is wrong. Satyen have remarked: "it is strictly advisable not to even indulge in such things and concentrate on increasing your love for your respective god, goddess, deities or simply HUMANITY." / Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Sir, Please dont mistake me .. I sometime get curious and childlike sometimes .. my love however is for the divine mother ... I fully agree that for people who are on a higher level of consciousness these things are just unthinkable of ! --- NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: > > > Three words for you Anya : GET BACK HERE ! > > > "I presume shakti sadhana is the only focus of this > forum, and > hence > such topics should not be discussed? I thought that > little things > here and there were allowed, but if the attitude of > the board > overall has changed since I last posted here, then I > apologize for > not noticing so." > > Well we did didn't we. We did not delete those > messages that have > been posted nor we reject. If you were to compare us > with other > hindu groups, I believe we are more "liberal" with > the > messages that > goes through the forum. We only give a gentle > reminder about the > group focus that is all, for any group to function > properly we must > have a focus, an objectives. Thus I don't think so > the general > attitude of the group particular the attitude of the > moderators have > changed. If you browse through our archives [ let > me see perhaps 1 > ½ hrs ago ] such topics have been discuss, it get > off hand and > leads > to a different direction altogether, which have no > parallels to > Shakti Sadhana. It becomes a distraction, thus my > question is : > where does all these leads us to. Nearer to DEVI. IF > Surya said, yes > it does for him, then good, we are not going to say > that he is > wrong. Satyen have remarked: > "it is strictly advisable not to even indulge in > such things and > concentrate on increasing your love for your > respective god, > goddess, deities or simply HUMANITY." > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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