Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Now that you have once again demonstrated that you are subject to rapid and uncontrollable mood swings what do you think about the main point that a taste for the bizarre and the eccentric is only a watered down version of the Jnani practice of Neti Neti? Before you respond, smoke a joint or two and mellow out. Omprem ], Lili Masamura <sephirah5> wrote: > Yes, we mustn't be open, God forbid we learn anything > new! The Sufis make frequent remark about how hard it > is to get anyone to understand what "learning" is. It > is not a rehashing of what we already know. It is > attempting to expand and diversify the patterns of > one's mental processes to eventually take in and be > able to process the concept of things beyond thought. > Take yourself, for instance. For you, there is no > other method to "attain" outside of your own chosen > paradigm. Things must be performed in a certain way, > under a certain aegis, and all according to the rules; > if not it has no validity whatever in your teeny-tiny > locked-up-tighter-than-a-bank-vault mind, and any > spiritual advancement attained thereby, in your > opinion, is completely invalid. Thus the actual > "learning" process has ceased for you entirely. As has > any chance of genuine spiritual progress whatever.. > Lilith M. > --- omprem <omprem> wrote: > > > > > This post misuses the ideal of openness to all and > > equinimity or > > vairagya to promote a concept of bizarreness. But > > bizarreness > > and eccentricity are not the hallmarks of a free > > spirit: they are the > > hallmarks of a tamasic spirit who has not learned > > the second > > great lesson of viveka or discrimination between the > > real and the > > unreal, truth and fiction. In fact, the bizarre or > > eccentric person is > > using his/her weird and wonderful excursions to > > acquire viveka . > > > > Bizarre and eccentric actions are a form of the Neti > > Neti ( Not > > this, not that) approach used by Jnanis to arrive at > > the Divine > > through a process of elimination. The actions are > > necessarily > > bizarre because the density of intellect of the > > tamasic sadhaka > > requires a low starting point of inquiry. > > > > Omprem > > > > > > , "NMadasamy" > > > > <nmadasamy@s...> wrote: > > > > > > What is meant by total openness and oneness? > > > > > > … when limitations and restrictions are gone, > > there is > > oneness. > > > With oneness, there is no suffering or conflict, > > because conflict > > > exists only where there is more than one. > > > > > > "Openness is an ability to go with the flow, as > > Taoism puts it, > > > without expecting predetermined outcomes. It means > > being > > receptive > > > to new possibilities, without prejudging them. It > > is an ability to > > > make yourself available to out-of-the-ordinary > > opportunities. > > > Indeed, openness to the unknown, the exotic, and > > the bizarre is > > > usually seen as the mark of a free spirit. You can > > increase your > > > openness by practicing empathy. Move outside > > yourself into > > another's > > > situation. Try to access the other's feelings and > > ideas. For the > > > purposes of practice, the more eccentric your > > choice, the > > better." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 omprem wrote:Now that you have once again demonstrated that you are subject to rapid and uncontrollable mood swings what do you think about the main point that a taste for the bizarre and the eccentric is only a watered down version of the Jnani practice of Neti Neti? Before you respond, smoke a joint or two and mellow out. hmmmmmm sounds fun. Hey! lili can I join u? I never tried it, can you show it to me huh! huh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Actually I would be happy to tell you how the sacred herb can be used to full advantage as a means of worship. However I will not do it on the open forum. Pearls must not be cast before (O-ne P-articular) swine.If you are interested, feel free to contact me at my private addy, and tell me a little about the spiritual practices that you are currently following. Lilith M. --- NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: > > omprem wrote:Now that you have once again > demonstrated that you are > subject to rapid and uncontrollable mood swings what > do you think > about the main point that a taste for the bizarre > and the eccentric > is only a watered down version of the Jnani practice > of Neti Neti? > Before you respond, smoke a joint or two and mellow > out. > > > hmmmmmm sounds fun. Hey! lili can I join u? I never > tried it, can > you show it to me huh! huh! > > > > > The all-new My - Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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