In conversation: Does our journey end with moksha? [ A repost ]

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[AA]

Did you read about the mountain climbing message? I've been thinking

about it, and this question bugs me: Does our spiritual journey end

with moksha?

 

[AB]

I don't think so.

 

[AA]

Is the end is our prime goal or the process itself. I think the most

important thing is the process of transformation, it is during that

process its either you die or you continue.

 

[AB]

The Process is important. Read this quote "We embody the local eyes

and ears and thoughts of the Universe. We are a way for the Cosmos

to know itself." You see ... we are all cells in Devi's body and

each one that awakens makes Her more alive, not only does She touch

us with Her grace, we send it back to Her, it is a two-way flow You

make Her more conscious; give Her a new set of eyes and ears, and a

new set of hands. You manifest Her ... which is moksha for you ...

but for Her it is more -- She too is happy to have You with Her So

Moksha is not the end of your path; in Sri vidya it is only the

beginning, like everything in Sri Vidya it is practical and logical.

 

Sadhana is like, say, Medical School. If you want to be a doctor,

you can't just be a doctor -- you must learn the intricacies of the

trade. If You want to be Devi there is even more to know ...You must

know Everything or be able to let Every thing flow through you in a

useful way to Her. So this process is important ... but it is just

the training for what is to come not only must we realize our Self,

but we must be able to act on that realization in a way that

usefully furthers Her work or else what good are we? So I think the

process is important, but it is not the end in itself. Just like

medical school is not the end, or law school is not the end it is

just a process of gathering the knowledge and experience we need to

do the work ahead then, once we "graduate" that is perhaps moksha

but still, you get better and better and if you are very good, and

love your work, hopefully you will take it further than it's ever

been taken before.

 

The thing is not just to "realize" it but also to "act" on it. A

doctor, after many years of effort and toil, may find a new cure or

a new process. A lawyer may develop a new legal precedent that makes

the system more just and humane and a sadhak, by becoming two of

Devi's thousand arms, makes Her only more manifest by giving Her two

more eyes, helps Her to see by giving Her two more ears ... etc.

because it must be lonely to be the only One, it's lonely at the

top. And so, by realizing Her, we also bring Her warmth and love.

 

[AA]

When you are at the top you stop feeling lonely.

 

[AB]

Not lonely, in a negative sense. Maybe it is like this: sometimes I

will wake very early, make a cup of tea and sit in the window,

looking over the bay and waiting for the sun to rise and suddenly,

this little one will hear me, and come out and lean next to me on

the couch, and maybe sleep leaning next to me and it feels so nice

to have this little person join me in this quiet solitary moment.

Maybe that is how Devi feels when one of Her children "break

through" Maya and consciously take their place at her side

 

[AA]

loneliness is just a stage of being. You are alone but you can't

identify yourself with your stage of aloneness because you are like

the energy around they goes through all around you, no barriers to

pass or to overcome.

 

[AB]

Right. It is not loneliness. When you contain a multitude. I think

that is what causes depression and insanity. When a person truly

feels separate and cannot forge a connection.

 

They might drink or take drugs to open some channel then it closes

up again, because they saw they opening but did not have the

knowledge to understand what to do with it

 

Basically Sri vidya is a logical scientific, proven process by which

we open these channels in a permanent way without the need for

artificial stimulants or depressants or whatever.

 

[AA]

It feels so nice to have this little person join us in this quiet

solitary moment and when they put their little hand on you or lead

against you, a very nice feeling

 

And when they did not talk, just sit there quietly with you. Its

rare moment to have this little one suddenly so quiet, and when they

do, its a divine presence

 

[AB]

yes, that's when you really feel it, when they are not being little

humans, but simply being.