Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Last night on the television I saw horrifying photographs. Some American reporters hid some very small cameras inside their clothing and visited Thailand and Cambodia. Boys and men approached them on the street offering to arrange sex for them. The reporters followed the boys and men to buildings where young women were kept. They showed dozens of girls there, some as young as 8, waiting for men to come and have sex with them. These girls were slaves according to the reporters. Some had been sold by their own parents, others kidnapped away from their parents and sold to the owners of these establishments. The reporters said that this is a major problem in the region, thousands of teens and children being used in this manner. This came to the attention of American newsreporters because it is said that some children who became orphans because of the tsunami are being captured and sold as sex slaves into this system. I cannot fully express my anger at seeing these photographs. Sex is a sacred act to be done only between consenting adults, never to satisfy the urges of one person to the detriment of another. Children are not capable of making appropriate decisions concerning sex. They lack wisdom and they do not have sufficient emotional maturity. To enslave children in such manner and force them to do such things is a crime against all that is good and holy. It is a betrayal of the sacred trust and holy responsibility that adults have to protect children from harm. Sister Usha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Dear Usha: There is no need to be quietly angry. You can help alleviate the situation here and now -- right now a tremendous amount of attention is being paid to the Tsunami victims, but child trafficking is an ongoing menace with a cumulative "body count" and wake of grief that is every bit as profound. I've noted before that, as a moderator of this group group, I try very hard not to use it as a personal soapbox to stand on and shout about my pet issues. And I think most longtime members will attest that I am usually not too overbearing in that way. But the issue you raise (also subject of a recent UNICEF report: /message/11594 ) has been of longtime concern to me -- and in case any of our members feel the same, I wanted to note some reliable resources through which you can help stop (and even undo damage already wrought by) this outrageous and heartbreaking practice. Perhaps one of the best overall resources for educating yourself and taking action is the excellent "Captive Daughters" organization: http://www.captivedaughters.org/Index.htm Another great organization -- one that I've worked with for around 15 years now -- is PLAN International. Their child trafficking page is filled with options on getting involved in stopping this criminal activity: http://www.planusa.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/56 I'd also mention World Vision's WILFund, "Changing the World, One Woman At a Time," which is actively fighting this sort of exploitation: http://www.worldvision.org/worldvision/appeals.nsf/stable/wilfund_joi n_prevent There are other organizations involved in this work as well. And it is vital work, which can profoundly change lives that are just beginning. Please think about it, and help if you can. Okay, now I'll shut up. ;-) Thanks DB , "Sister Usha Devi" <sisterusha> wrote: > > I cannot fully express my anger at seeing these photographs. Sex > is a sacred act to be done only between consenting adults, never to > satisfy the urges of one person to the detriment of another. ...To > enslave children in such manner and force them to do such things is a crime against all that is good and holy. It is a betrayal of the > sacred trust and holy responsibility that adults have to protect > children from harm. > > Sister Usha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 This is nothing new at all; this part of the world has long been notorious for this sort of thing. It is a fact that pedophiles come from all parts of the world for this very reason, and there are actually organized child-sex tours available to them...pedophiles can vacation in Thailand and they will be guided to places where sex with children, both boys and girls, according to preference, is arranged for them. I am trying very very hard to feel sorry for Thailand and the Far East, but after reading that article in the December issue of Vogue on how the Indian populace is largely and deliberately oblivious to the AIDS scourge in its midst(experts think the situation in India is actually WORSE than in Africa now!) AND the huge, horrific, degrading prostitution trade that is one of the main vectors of the disease,AND the demeaning social attitudes towards women in general that fosters the mentality that keeps such evil flourishing, I simply cannot. I can only feel that they are reaping their very own evil karma, just as their own scriptures state plainly! Everyone thinks the East is so "holy" and "God-aware", but the veil of that particular illusion has sure been completely ripped from MY eyes, at least! I tried to reread "Daughters of the Goddess" again yesterday, but all that pious blah-blah now makes me nauseous, knowing what I know now! Where are all these "god-realized" women(so-called) that are supposed to be in such great abundance in India, and why are they not speaking up against this shameful situation, which has been going on for nearly twenty years now!? Why is Ammaji not publicly hugging the children infected with AIDS by the actions of their fathers, who visit prostitutes and then spread disease to their innocent families? Many Indians dare to think of us here in the West as "mlecha" (filthy), yet in India their own disgusting men cannot control their base appetites enough to even wear a condom for the sake of their own children, who then are left to slowly die alone in suffering and shame, like Dilli Babu! At least we in the West acknowledge the problem, and have taken steps to deal with it! All pious yappity-yap about "how much Indians reverence the Divine Feminine" went straight down the toilet in my mind when I saw that picture of little Dilli, all alone in his suffering, deserted by his relatives, who even refused to claim his little body after he died! Deeds speak louder than words; as a Westerner, I could not go to India and expect to be heard, but people like Ammaji, Sri Ma, Gurumayi, et al, would be heard if they spoke up openly in the cause of public AIDS education. I urge people to write to these "gurus" and insist they take this dreadful situation up as a cause...if they then do not, then we here in the West, will see clearly just how deep their religion actually goes with them! Lilith M. --- Sister Usha Devi <sisterusha wrote: > > Last night on the television I saw horrifying > photographs. Some > American reporters hid some very small cameras > inside their clothing > and visited Thailand and Cambodia. Boys and men > approached them on > the street offering to arrange sex for them. The > reporters followed > the boys and men to buildings where young women were > kept. They > showed dozens of girls there, some as young as 8, > waiting for men to > come and have sex with them. > > These girls were slaves according to the reporters. > Some had been > sold by their own parents, others kidnapped away > from their parents > and sold to the owners of these establishments. The > reporters said > that this is a major problem in the region, > thousands of teens and > children being used in this manner. This came to the > attention of > American newsreporters because it is said that some > children who > became orphans because of the tsunami are being > captured and sold as > sex slaves into this system. > > I cannot fully express my anger at seeing these > photographs. Sex > is a sacred act to be done only between consenting > adults, never to > satisfy the urges of one person to the detriment of > another. Children > are not capable of making appropriate decisions > concerning sex. They > lack wisdom and they do not have sufficient > emotional maturity. To > enslave children in such manner and force them to do > such things is a > crime against all that is good and holy. It is a > betrayal of the > sacred trust and holy responsibility that adults > have to protect > children from harm. > > Sister Usha > > > > > > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 My dearest Lili, The fact that some people are hypocrites and do practice what they profess does not mean that those of us who truly believe our faith very deeply in our hearts cannot give voice to the outrage and disgust that we feel when seeing such injustices. Yes, such things have been happening for many years, and yes there are many who look away. But those of us who feel true and genuine love for the Great Mother and true compassion for our sisters around the world must speak our hearts and let these others know just how repulsive and repugnant are their actions. Jai Ma! Sister Usha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Lili Masamura :I urge people to write to these "gurus" and insist they take this dreadful situation up as a cause...if they then do not, then we here in the West, will see clearly just how deep their religion actually goes with them! I am distrubed with this whole statement. Who are the customers? Who are the one that comes in search of child sex slave? This is basic Economic logic: Demand and Supply. If there is no demand there will be no supply. I tends to support Devi Bhakta arguement, Instead of just coming here screaming & jumping up and down condemning, why not actually do it? Get your butt out, go out there and do something about it. Your own effort and not others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I was referring here, strictly speaking, to the AIDS situation in India, and not to the child sex trade specifically, though I can tell you I never lose an opportunity to point out to anyone who will listen (practically nobody) that our society covertly and constantly promotes child pornography and exploitation through the media, and the most guilty is the music industry, particularly Madonna and her ilk. It was she who started this slutty "boy toy" image among young women and the music industry caught on, capitalized and profited hugely on this dynamic by contriving trampy "girl bands" like the Spice Girls and Britney Spears, knowing full well that young women would want to act and dress just like them, i.e. like sluts, as a matter of course, and slyly promoted these bands, and by extension, the image, heavily to younger and younger girls, to the point where I would routinely get eleven and twelve-year olds in my body-piercing studio dressed and painted in a way that would do credit to a streetwalker. When men, both young and old, are constantly subjected to the sight of half-dressed young girls everywhere they go, and everybody is constantly and covertly prodded by advertising media to think that we all must be in heat all the time, and if we go one week without sex we are "deprived", and pornography and the "pimp" and "ho" image is glamourized in the media, the result is going to be a rising tide of interest in pornography, particularly child pornography. The covertly sexualized child image is constantly being pushed at us everywhere we look..look at that Calvin Klein character and his disgusting campaign (I think it was pulled after there was an actual public outcry for once)with teenaged women slumped about in suggestive poses with their panties showing, pouting at the camera...I wanted to THROW UP! But, that particular incident aside, nobody at all ever seems to see anything wrong with any of this ongoing sort of thing at all....just me, it seems. Mothers don't care; they shrug and say they can't do anything about it, ot they actually encourage it. So, I can only shrug my shoulders. There is no use getting up on a soapbox because nobody cares to listen anyways. And meanwhile the pedophiles are having a field day! I hope Madonna and Britney are proud of themselves. I think of them every time I hear about another young girl kidnapped and raped, found dismembered or buried in a shallow grave somewhere. Lilith M. --- NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: > > > Lili Masamura :I urge people to write to these > "gurus" and insist > they take this dreadful situation up as a cause...if > they then do > not, then we here in the West, will see clearly just > how deep their > religion actually goes with them! > > > I am distrubed with this whole statement. Who are > the customers? Who > are the one that comes in search of child sex slave? > This is basic > Economic logic: Demand and Supply. If there is no > demand there will > be no supply. > > > I tends to support Devi Bhakta arguement, Instead of > just coming > here screaming & jumping up and down condemning, why > not actually do > it? Get your butt out, go out there and do something > about it. Your > own effort and not others. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Lilith M. wrote : "I was referring here, strictly speaking, to the AIDS situation in India, and not to the child sex trade specifically, though I can tell you I never lose an opportunity to point out to anyone who will listen (practically nobody) that our society covertly and constantly promotes child pornography and exploitation through the media, and the most guilty is the music industry, particularly Madonna and her ilk. It was she who started this slutty "boy toy" image among young women and the music industry caught on… And mean while the pedophiles are having a field day! I hope Madonna and Britney are proud of themselves. I think of them every time I hear about another young girl kidnapped and raped, found dismembered or buried in a shallow grave somewhere. Firstly Lilith let me say : I am not trying to find mistakes with anyone especially you, but just like you, I like point our certain issues. I'm just in a arguementative mood. LOL. If I disagree, I say so. Of course, those are your opinions and I respect you for that. No hard feelings okay! Having said all that, I like to say : I disagree with your above assumption. Why should we blame Madonna or Britney Spears? They are what they are, and they do what they know best. They are the product of time. The same goes with media. So who is to blame? I don't think so blaming is the issue here. What is the situation we have now? What can we do about it? Why do people rape? I read once an article written by a muslim convert [ a westerner who was once a hostage ] : a commander came to her cell one day and told her : please do not hang your panties out over the window, because when my soldiers see it, this will give them impure thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 >Why is Ammaji not publicly hugging the children infected with AIDS by >the actions of their fathers, who visit prostitutes >and then spread disease to their innocent families? Who says she is not? I can't find right now my copy, but Amma gave an address in Geneva last year in which she specifically urged people to oppose the various forms of violence against girls and women which have become embedded in world cultures. I share your frustration with the general indulgence and silence about these abuses, and I also agree with you about Madonna's share of responsibility in upping the sexual pressures on girls. As to sexual slavery, it's all over. Certainly women in the global South have gotten the brunt of it, but knowledgeable people have informed me that it is going on in American cities, for example in hotels near airports. Jai Maa, Max -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 who says she is not hugging? I have seen her hug lepers. (again I make it clear I am neither her deciple or follower. But a person who admires her) Max Dashu <maxdashu wrote:>Why is Ammaji not publicly hugging the children infected with AIDS by >the actions of their fathers, who visit prostitutes >and then spread disease to their innocent families? Who says she is not? I can't find right now my copy, but Amma gave an address in Geneva last year in which she specifically urged people to oppose the various forms of violence against girls and women which have become embedded in world cultures. I share your frustration with the general indulgence and silence about these abuses, and I also agree with you about Madonna's share of responsibility in upping the sexual pressures on girls. As to sexual slavery, it's all over. Certainly women in the global South have gotten the brunt of it, but knowledgeable people have informed me that it is going on in American cities, for example in hotels near airports. Jai Maa, Max -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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