Karma and going beyond Karma

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Actually, the idea that it is possible to go beyond

karma is elucidated in the Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 3.

Before I quote, please recall that the word "karma"

itself can be simply translated as "action", in the

sense of an action causing re-action over and over,

until it is equilibrated by spiritual effort. The

crude Western equivalent of the incredibly complex and

poorly-understood doctrine of karma is Newton's Third

Law of Motion; "Every action brings an equal and

opposite re-action"

 

To wit:

"Food is the life of all beings, and all food comes

from rain above. Sacrifice brings the rain from

heaven, and sacrifice is sacred action.

 

Sacred action is described in the Vedas and these

come from the Eternal, and therefore is the Eternal

everpresent in a sacrifice

 

Thus was the Wheel of the Law set in motion, and

that man lives indeed in vain, who in a life of sinful

pleasures helps not in its revolutions.

 

But the man who has found the joy of the Spirit and

in the Spirit has satisfaction, who in the Spirit has

found his peace, that man is beyond the Law of Action.

 

He is beyond what is done and what is not done, and

in all his works he is beyond the help of mortal

beings."

 

 

I do in fact know all about the Mother-Father

dynamic; it is also necessary that you understand

that, just as in everyday life, children must

eventually grow up and take responsibility for

themselves and their own actions, and this is no less

true for humanity as a whole, who are Devi's

"children". Those who cannot evolve past the notion of

Cosmic Mommy and Daddy always looking out for their

"babies", and who refuse to grasp their own spiritual

inheritance as co-creators of Reality are doomed to

remain at a dangerously puerile state of spiritual

awareness, from which they WILL be forced to "grow up"

in any number of unpleasant ways! A child who clings

to "baby talk" and refuses to be toilet trained long

after its peers have done so becomes an object of

scorn and ridicule. Parents who keep their children

dependent by coddling them when they should be moving

them firmly towards adult responsibilities are doing a

grave disservice to future generations. You can be

sure that Kali Ma will not allow any such thing; if we

do not voluntarily grasp our spiritual

responsibilities to Creation with both hands and

relinquish our childish notions of the way things are,

stern measures will be taken! We are starting to see

this all around us. You can also be sure that the

spiritual notions that you cling to so firmly will be

run right through Kali's fire at some point, and

whether you like it or not, matters not at all to

Devi. All that matters is that we GROW UP spiritually

and take responsibility for ourselves and the

situation around us, rather than waiting for Cosmic

Mommy to appear and make it all better. And this is

the essential gist of what I have been harping on all

along.

Lilith M.

 

Sacred action is described in the Vedas and these

come from the Eternal, and therefore is the Eternal

everpresent in a sacrifice

 

Thus was the Wheel of the law set in motion, and

that man lives indeed in vain, who in a life of sinful

pleasures helps not in its revolutions.

 

But the man who has found the joy of the Spirit and

in the Spirit has satisfaction, who in the Spirit has

found his peace, that man is beyond the Law of Action.

He is beyond what is done and what is not done, and

in all his works he is beyond the help of mortal

beings".

--- SophiasHeaven wrote:

>

> I do not believe now nor will i Ever believe that

> those who participated in

> the Crusades are exempt from karma. I don't care

> Who they were fighting for

> it was Wrong and, I don't know what their individual

> karmas will be about it,

> and i don't believe karma is as simple as

> "punishment" and i don't tend to

> think like that except when i'm morbidly depressed.

> You of all people Lilith, should understand the

> neeed for a Mother/Father

> Goddess/God to be serious with His/Her children and

> teach them to be good by

> finding ways to help them understand it is wrong to

> murder people in the name of

> God.

>

> Peace,

> Cathie

> In a message dated 1/17/2005 7:32:05 PM Mountain

> Standard Time,

> paulie-rainbow writes:

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> > For instance: when the

> > >Crusaders were fighting for God, they were

> exempted

> > >from their karma, but the moment one of them

> succumbed

> > >to greed, and took that piece of jewelry or that

> money

> > >pouch from his victims'corpses, and put it in his

> > >pocket, it was no longer a "Holy" war from then

> on,

> > >but a war for personal gain!

> > > Lilith M.

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> >

> >

> > Were they still exempt from karma when they

> succumbed cannibalism?

> >

> >

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