Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Hey Mary Ann: Just heard something about the Da Vinci code on NPR this morning; apparently some travel agents are now offering "Da Vinci Code" tours of Rome and the Vatican. There actually was a lot of stuff hidden in the religious art back when the Church had a virtual monopoly on commissions -- really just prototypical artistic rebellion against authority, not all the cloak-and-dagger intrigue and conspiracy that makes a good novel. But as one tourist put it, "I know it's not true, but it would be cool if it was." *** BTW what about my posts about matter and energy? Shakti means energy. Shakti can manifest as matter, but doesn't always. *** You quoted earlier a source that said, "Energy is not the same as matter, although the two are closely related and associated." I think that statement is kind of meaningless unless you've first defined all of your terms. The whole basis of relativity is that energy and matter ARE the same thing the bottom; energy equals mass times the speed of light squared. Newtonian physics, which still applies fine in our everyday affairs, separates the two in energy, which acts, and matter, which is acted upon. In other words, both Einstein's and Newton's theories work fine at the levels they were designed to address. *** Energy and Matter do not HAVE to be personified as male and female *** Actually, in the Hindu systems, Energy and Matter are *not* the point of the Female/Male dichotomy. Shakti, comprising both Energy and Matter (i.e. the manifest, ever-changing Cosmos) is said to be Devi, or Female if you please. Consciousness (or Chit, the unmanifest, unchanging substratum) is generally said to be Shiva or Male. Consciousness animates Energy; Energy activites Consciousness. You are correct that there is no need to personify these principles. Most Hindu systems do, however; and there is a reason for it: It is an effective tool for getting one's mind around some fairly huge concepts. However, Hindu systems also teach that one may also meditate upon the Divine without form -- a most elevated and effective sadhana indeed if you have the mental makeup for it. Having said that, I still do not believe that the Male/Female assignments are simply arbitrary labels tossed out there in case "people need it." The designations simply make to much sense at too many levels. I would add that, in my own personal experience -- which is modest indeed; I claim no particular skill or accomplishment as a sadhak -- the distinction seems very much rooted in reality. All may merge at the ultimate level, but at many lesser levels, the distinction is most useful and entirely accurate. My two cents, for whatever it may be worth ... Aum MAtangyai NamaH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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